Xbox 360 Fanboy

I don't understand why people have such a hard time seeing the value and ease at which a 360 can be the entertainment hub of a home. I love to play games but I also love streaming video to my theater room from the server downstairs. The way a 360 can upscale video is amazing. I think the XBVM is as good as blu-ray and digital distribution is the future like it or not. While I see where your coming from that the 360 is the most traditional console of this generation don't deny the fact that the 360 is an entertainment beast.

im not denying the fact, the 360 can and very much so, is a great entertainment system, im just saying that while hunting for a console i don't exactly look at the blueray player or anything like that, the 360 IS a good entertainment system, i use it for dvd's and while im not a HD person, its good its able to preform these functions if wanted. While its good and all to have these extras i believe the 360 succeeds cause it is a great traditional console and with the extra of a dvd player, and high def functions it can also be wanted by a high def gamer.

you guys do know toshiba left microsoft (HD-DVD) to go work WITH sony. So, toshiba won't be able to overpower sony, because sony gave toshiba the technology (their own cell processor inside the ps3) to work on and advance furthur.

Well, that's nothing new for them really. It's the same thing they did with Blu-ray.

Don't get your panties in a bunch.

Just wondering have you caught wind of a new chip made by Toshiba that upconverts DVD to 960p?

I saw it on engadget the other day?

Sony shouldn't bank on blu-ray being the only selling point.

Ysleiro say it one more time you douchebag. He CAUGHT WIND OF IT 1000 COMMENTS AGO.

So, you're telling me games from the last generation and before had no replay value? Considering most consoles were not used online and absolutely no games had 'achievements', that seems to be the point you're making.
Online play (which MGS4 has) is a good way to add replay value, since you always get paired against different opponents who react differently. But it's clearly not the only thing.
Do you know how many times people played games like Sonic the Hedgehog (Megadrive)? Hmm... Maybe that's too far back for you, is this your first console generation?

To be fair Phizzy, these things go generation to generation. What was good replay value back then may not be considered good anymore, just like Chrono Trigger at one point was revelled as having great graphics, those are no longer considered good compared to what we have today.

Likewise, what was once considered to be a fair amount of replay value may no longer be considered so today compared to the games around it. I can say with confidence that the number of hours I've put into Gears of War are greater than the number of hours I put into my top 10 games last console generation combined. Putting 40 hours into a game was once considered an eternity. Nowadays, people put exponentionally more time into online shooters like CoD4, Gears, etc. Playing a 6-10 hour game used to be considered OK, whereas nowadays a game that offers 6-10 hours and nothing else on top of that gets ripped to shreds.

In fact, now that I think about it, the game that I put the most time into by far last generation was Madden, and that was because I played it online a ton.

Sure, games can have plenty of replay value without online or achievements (Oblivion anyone?). But they're still starting way behind. Actually playing through Crackdown is about a 3 hour ordeal, but I'll be damned if I haven't put 80 hours into that game screwing around in co-op and going after the fun as hell achievements. That's double the time I put into GTA3 San Andreas even though the substance of San Andreas was 100 times what's there in Crackdown (kill boss A, then kill boss B, then kill boss C).

Now, imagine if we combine the powers. I guess we'll see that happen on April 29th...

@phizzy...

Dude, i've been around the block since the 2600... I can tell you that i have played many many many games and played them over and over again... But the achievements have gotten me to actually go back and play games to get more points... And discover other parts of the game...

So if i were to get GTA on 360 vs getting it on a PS3, i will choose the 360 because i will get more out of it...

My comment is just my feelings on gaming... Achievements bring me back into games that i may have forgotten about months later... Some people arnt affected by the stigma that is achievements... You certaintly arnt, but i am...

How many xbox1 games have you honestly gone back and actually played from beginning to end? (not counting halo2)... Now think about it, if they had achievements, you would definitely be more than willing to go back and finish them up for that 1000 completion score... right?

Heh, it amuses me that all Xbots have to refer to GT5P as 'demo' whenever it's mentioned. Seems like jealousy that an incomplete game is able to sell so much.

No, I think it says something about the complete absence of decent games for the PS3. When Sony can sell a game that's half done and it sells like hot cakes, it means there's nothing else for the consumer to buy. But hey, you have Blu Ray!

OH! Tizo burned you phizzy, you are dumb!

MGS WILL suck your balls. Have you seen demos for that game? It's easily the most homo-erotic game I have ever seen. Now, that's fine if you like that sort of thing, but I prefer my eroticism hetero.

Seriously, go watch some movies for this game. When snake crawls on the ground the camera gets up in his grundle while he basically humps the ground. His ass is accentuated in his gay-suit. And when he camos up against a naked statue, he grabs the balls. C'mon! That's gay (not that there's anything wrong with that). Sorry, I can do without that game. The last one sucked too.

Sony is getting waaaay too confident. The 360 is the better gaming console by far. Sure I have some gripes, but there are much more games right now and better games on the way.