
So dear reader, when was the last time you were on Live? Now, when was the last time you were on Live and did not encounter some form of asshat? However long ago it was, it was definitely too recent, and word is starting to really get around. In an article at Gamasutra, Fulton, a Microsoft employee who worked on Shadowrun, writes that: "the online behavior of our customers is dramatically reducing our sales."
And that's just the beginning of an excellent four page article on social design and the future of online gaming with regard to social interaction. The assertion that Live is generally filled with annoying idiots has been widely held among the more hardcore gaming community since the inception of the service, but this is the first that we've ever heard anything out of Microsoft about it affecting them in any manner. In the article Fulton posits that we know and love games so we're willing to work around it or put up with it, but for newcomers to the medium, the fun/annoyance ratio could just be too high. Readers, what do you think?





Reader Comments (Page 3 of 8)
4-03-2008 @ 8:29PM
AoE said...
Also, for the record... shit talking is hella fun, and I do enjoy it. But I think we can all agree, good shit talking is usually clever and should illicit a laugh from others you're playing with.
Name calling, "fuck you" "you suck" and the like aren't even remotely clever... it's crap like that that keeps me away from the random online matches. Be clever in your shit-talking people, we all benefit!
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4-03-2008 @ 8:30PM
DeadPixel said...
thats the single reason i wont play on live, is because i dont want to be sworn at and called a homo repeatedly by a twelve year old
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4-03-2008 @ 8:34PM
lyingit said...
now...I don't talk shit ever...honestly...
I play a nice decent game, regardless of what I'm playing.
I think the root of the problem is all the nancy-boys that have thin skin...who gives a crap about what some random person you'll never meet is spouting off?
just play your game.
and like has been said, remove your headset, unplug it, or otherwise mute the idiots.
but c'mon...it's friggin' words...people get too butt-hurt over some stupid ass comment.
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4-03-2008 @ 8:35PM
C YOU 1N HELL said...
Look there's a mute button on all mics U DAM CRY BABIES stop acting like fags. Go play u lonely PS3 junk becuz ur so dumb and lazy u can't turn a mute button on.
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4-03-2008 @ 9:24PM
Biz said...
Wouldn't surprise me for an instant if you were one of these white power imbeciles that have inundated XBL lately.
4-03-2008 @ 8:35PM
Ian said...
generally ill play with my friends that i kno in rl and mute people i dont like... its easy?
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4-03-2008 @ 8:48PM
Arthur Bickford said...
It's very frustrating to be annoyed by little punks, and the parents that are letting their kids play the games that us adults feel they shouldn't be involved in. They should also stop requiring achievements to be earned by playing online to avoid this problem as well.
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4-03-2008 @ 8:51PM
Anticrawl said...
This is why I stear clear of mainstream games if I can. Shadowrun has a fantastic community and Vegas 2 was great from the 11th til the release date then it developed this, "kick everyone who joins your game" policy. Was fun playing the game with the press til it released to the public. I can't play Halo 3 or COD4 because of the types you run into, the mute feature is nice but it becomes tiresome. Then there is the whole Halo 3 and COD4 molded faster than a loaf of bread in a steam room. That probably was more the reason for me putting those games down than the online community.
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4-03-2008 @ 8:52PM
dylan said...
All they would need to do is hire about 40-50 people to monitor the games when they first load up, the asshats usually start their tirade within a few milliseconds, then the monitors boot the player for the next 24 hours, if the same player gets booted for racism or gay bashing more than 5 times, they get their account revoked. it doesn't matter that they couldn't police all the games, the mere threat of it happening would stem a great enough portion to make the online experience much more enjoyable.
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4-03-2008 @ 8:58PM
Vagrant Dead said...
Thats why I joined theadultgamer.com, keeps the kiddies out of my rooms.
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4-03-2008 @ 9:01PM
greenrider19 said...
i just mute everybody. period, it's much more enjoyable to laugh at people who can't attempt to insult you.
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4-03-2008 @ 9:06PM
Rurik said...
It's why I no longer play online. I just bought the 360 in late December, and used the free one month Live Gold. Most of it was playing Need for Speed Carbon. I'm an adult gamer with a son, and I love single-player games. This was my first foray into multi-player anonymous gaming. Within the first few matches, I joined a race with two other kids. As soon as a race started, one told me to leave because he and his friend were trying to score achievements. After I ignored him, he started calling me all sorts of four letter words until I just left the game.
A few days later I play again. A version of the game where you are a cop and try to ram the other racers. Well, knowing tactics, I get in prime locations to try and block the road and force them into me, instead of needlessly chasing them around the track, inching up on them. One adult player started cussing about me (not to me) and how I was screwing everything up. I left the game with my first set of bad reputations :(
After a week of that, I haven't gone back, and don't feel the need to. Sure, yes, you can disable the chat options, but for someone new to the console that just wants to get in and play, that's not something they think about.
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4-03-2008 @ 9:07PM
Dereald M. said...
I've started playing less Live, because of the constant slurs and just generally poor sportsmanship of some players.
And the biggest letdown is, when you need online multi-player achievements. I can't stand being on Xbox Live, long enough to achieve them.
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4-03-2008 @ 9:11PM
Mr Khan said...
hyperbole is fun
I mean, sure we're all ticked off by internet asshats, but i think its misrepresented as a problem
I mean, I don't like voice chat, but that's because i really don't like chat period during competitive matches (in between matches it really helps, though)
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4-03-2008 @ 9:14PM
bonzai said...
Maybe the reason less people are playing ts because the weather is getting better so people are playing less?
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4-03-2008 @ 9:18PM
High-Brow Mouse said...
It's not just limited to racial slurs and idiotic voice chat though. It's in-game behavior as well. I can't tell you how many times on Battlefield Modern Combat you'd end up with half a dozen vehicle destroyers or team killers. You see it on Hardcore COD4 too. I play hardcore because of the challenge of it, and yet ever few rounds some idiot fires a grenade right into the center of the squad at the beginning, tking everyone. The overall behavior on Live has sunk to an all-time low, making many team based games hard to get involved in. Frontlines, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, and soon enough Battlefield Bad Company... none are immune. The worst part is that this is a paid service, and M$ seems more worried about making examples out of achievement cheaters than implementing some kind of way to punish habitual team killers (or lamers in general, not just tking)
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4-03-2008 @ 9:20PM
Miguel said...
simply ignore it. if you do they will find out your not negatively-influenced by their ramblings and probably leave or shut up. don't just sit there and join them by arguing back at them or something stupid like that. and use the mute option found in some games and the block communications option. Most of this trash-talk occurs in a few T rated games and most M rated games. If its a concerned parent not wanted their children to hear that nonsense, then they should have bought them the game anyways. I don't think Microsoft should do anything drastic to fix this. Just something like informing parents which most of the percentage of complaints come from about the online change in experience of the game.
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4-03-2008 @ 9:25PM
KC Hog said...
It is amazing how great chat can be in a game like Catan which is just an okay game, but enhanced by the folks playing it you talk with. Then, you can get some decent folks in COD4, but the earlier it isn in the night, the worse it is. Why don't they just give you an option to only play in a certain age group?
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4-03-2008 @ 9:33PM
PeterF said...
people lie about their age
4-03-2008 @ 11:53PM
Preston Crawford said...
Completely agree. This is the bitter thing about the way Live is. I've met some great people and had some fun, interesting conversations over games of Catan, Carcassonne, Backgammon, even the sports games. But it's just gotten so bad. And it's to the point where people, by default, don't bother with the mic because they assume everyone is an asshat. And so there goes the social aspect of Live, what really made it cool, IMHO.
Not much longer before it just becomes a SP machine for me or I just get a PS3 and move on and consider the moments where I got to play with cool people to be worth the price I paid for the period of time I had the system.
Already talking in the past tense... :(