The Advanced Media Network sat down with Epic's Mark Rein and Cliffy B to chat about their big E3 announcements and learned some sad news about the new Gears of War PC content. When questioned about whether or not the new campaign missions or multiplayer maps announced for the PC version would be headed to the Xbox 360, Rein said it was "unlikely [that] we will bring that content to 360". Cliffy B further emphasized their doubt by stating that "if we didn't have any sort of exclusive on the PC, why would people buy the PC version?". The Epic crew explained that bringing the PC content over to the 360 would be an extremely time consuming task and that they're currently focused on other projects like Unreal Tournament 3.Being the Gears fan that I am it's hard to hear that new, exciting multiplayer AND campaign content will be available, but not for 360 owners. And no, there's no way I'm personally buying a beefy computer to run Gears of War PC just to experience the new content. No matter how you slice the news it sucks for 360 owners and Gears enthusiasts ... it's simple as that. Now, I'm going to go cry myself to sleep.
[Thanks, Jason S]




Reader Comments (Page 2 of 3)
7-13-2007 @ 1:25PM
Triforceowner said...
Edit: And guys, don't let guys like Titty Pink get you down. His lies aren't even worth reading [Gears of War (main series) can not touch the PS3].
That's more friendly :).
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7-13-2007 @ 1:26PM
NitroFrost said...
X3F you guys should start a petition like you guys did with the halo chat PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
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7-13-2007 @ 1:30PM
JohnMatZ said...
I just don't understand all the whining. As great as epic is at supporting their games, they are a for profit company and Microsoft is in the business of making money as well.
At the local Wal-Marts there is alot of shelf space devoted to PC gaming. It is still a valid platform and I do think that it generates quite a lot of money for the publishers.
Yes, we are fanboys but gimme a break, THERE has to be a carrot for us to bite or there is NO REASON for the games to be made.
I will be on my buy list.
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7-13-2007 @ 1:32PM
Titty Pink said...
Triforce I don't beleive the PS3 will ever see Gears...but I never would have thought in a million years that there would be Gears content that hit another platform that didn't hit the 360. Dude, it's GEARS OF WAR!!!! This game MADE the 360, and this title put Epic up there with the big boys and you're not the least a bit pissed about it? As far as "his lies", I can't make this shit up dude, and as a 360 owner I'm pissed at E3, I'm pissed that Halo 3 looks slightly better than Halo 2 (and doesn't play as well IMO), I'm pissed that I can't get that Gears content, and I'm pissed that my 3rd (yes THIRD) 360 could crash at any fucking moment. Troll or not, those are legitimate gripes. If you are mellow enough for those things not to bother you then cool, but don't talk shit on me because I'm voicing my opinion on 360 issues on a 360 forum. Thats just...odd...
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7-13-2007 @ 1:52PM
Royale said...
Remember how forever they said that Gears would not be released on the PC. That was so people would buy and XBOX360 and Gears. Now they are just saying this so people will buy the PC version.
"if we didn't have any sort of exclusive on the PC, why would people buy the PC version?"
The logic is not there. I don't think anyone who owns the 360 Gears will spend 50 dollars to experience a few new maps, it's just not worth it. But if they released the new maps via XBLM for 10 bucks like the hidden fronts map pack they will make a killing.
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7-13-2007 @ 2:01PM
erivera3 said...
@25
Don't worry, Halo 3 will calm your nerves you crazy kid.
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7-13-2007 @ 2:03PM
JohnMatZ said...
More Facts.
WOW has 7 million subscribers as of Sept 2006
1.1 billion in subscriptions sales a year alone. (a conservative number) They probably shelled out a quarter of a billion to buy the game and expansions (conservative again)
That is a huge market of PC users and that isn't even the entire slice of the PC gaming pie.
Gears for the PC is a viable property. Why wouldn't Microsoft want to put this game on a platform with a larger installed base than the Xbox 360.
Also alot of us 360 users have decent PCs. Gripe all you want, it makes good business sense. Why else would Microsoft pay for Exclusive content. It keeps expanding the gaming pie. And of all the companies I know MSFT is about PROFIT as much as any of them.
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7-13-2007 @ 2:14PM
Jason S said...
youre welcome guys.
anyway, the fact is with the map editor and ability to get mods is enough for pc users to buy it. at the end of the day 360 players will only get the maps that the devs make, the pc players will get hundreds from the fans.
combine this with an exclusive game mode and extra multiplayer maps from the start and you can agree that even without the extra sp content people would wanna buy this.
it may be good business, but its bad for the 360 players.
I wouldnt be surprised if after this, we'll see the odd map pack be released (for a price) every 6 months and odd "general housekeeping" update from epic whilst they update the hell outta their new baby.
GG epic, GG
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7-13-2007 @ 2:19PM
Triforceowner said...
They Call Me Mellow Yellow...Quite Rightly... By the way, I took back the "troll" statement. Anyway, I didn't know Gears "made" Epic. I thought it was Unreal Tournament, but I could be wrong.
I'm not exactly sure why you are pissed, even after reading your comment. Gears was obviously going to be a PC port, and even though PC receives some content 360 gamers won't immediately have you're still going to get Gears 2 and Unreal 3.
"His lies" was actually refferring to Gears on the PS3, but I see you probably typed that out of the agony of a PC port?
Personally I can't make a judgement on Halo 3's graphics. The E3 trailer was too fast for me to catch anything, and I can't exactly freeze frame to check that kind of stuff (it just doesn't work for me). As for the gameplay, what did you expect. It's probably going to be a *lot* like Halo 2, except with new campaign, multiplayer maps, weapons, AI, etc.
This is kind of like how Zelda is never drastically different, but it always offers new puzzles, characters, dungeons, and items.
Anyway, as for failure rates and all, Microsoft has admitted to some problem or another and they are covering it via their warranty extension. Any console you get back at this point should have the proper heat sinks and all, and if you were really lucky you melted your motherboard and they put in a new chip... oh, but that won't happen for a few more months.\
And sorry about seeming to rag on you. "And guys, don't let trolls like Titty Pink get you down. His lies aren't even worth reading [Gears of War (main series) can not touch the PS3]. Thanks for the article, even though it had nothing to do with Gears of War." Not my kind of usual writing, frankly.
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7-13-2007 @ 2:34PM
T Ghost said...
Gotta be REALLY STUPID to believe that Micro$oft Games, GoW publisher, will NEVER release the extra content for the 360 at 1200 MSP after the PC version sales die in a few months.
Dustin, you surprise me sometimes. Got coffee today?
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7-13-2007 @ 3:30PM
razer said...
I think it's been alread said but the "If we give the 360 the same content why buy the PC version"... Well newsflash genius people will buy the PC version because they don't own an Xbox 360!
If they are actually implying that people will buy it again on the PC then they are truely off their freakin rocker!
I think all that speedy driving in his new lambo(thanks to 360 fans) has shook his brains up.
One less reason to own an Xbox 360!
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7-13-2007 @ 3:39PM
Aaron said...
360 owners just got PWNED by Cliffy sad sad news :(
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7-13-2007 @ 4:08PM
William Winchester said...
Unreal Tournament 3 and Haze are only exclusive to the Playstation 3 for about 3 months time. Early in 2008 they will both be released for the Xbox 360.
In fact, Epic makes it clear that the Xbox 360 version of Unreal Tournament 3 will have its advantages over the Playstation 3 version, depending on your point of view.
Sony points out that the PS3 is compatible with the maps that PC gamers design for Unreal Tournament 3. However, there will literally be hundreds of thousands of maps designed, most of which are very poor quality. Sony never said how those maps could be accessed by the Playstation 3. All of those PC maps also will NOT be optimized for the Playstation 3 hardware.
With the Xbox 360 version of Unreal Tournament 3, gamers will not have direct access to the hundreds of thousands of maps that PC gamers create. Instead, Microsoft and Epic will work together to select the BEST maps that PC gamers create. Those maps will then be professionally optimized for the Xbox 360 hardware by the people at Epic. After the maps have been optimized for the Xbox 360 hardware, they will be released to the public either for free for a very inexpensive charge each month.
Personally, I would rather have the maps that are optimized for the hardware. But I think it is very obvious that the best version of Unreal Tournament 3 will actually be the PC version, which will also be released in 2007.
The Playstation 3 controller isn't designed very well for First-Person Shooters. Unreal Tournament started out as a PC game where you use a Mouse and Keyboard while seated at a desk or table. You can turn the PC resolution of Unreal 3 all the way up to over 2500 lines of resolution if you have a powerful enough PC. The consoles don't come close to that level of potential performance.
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7-13-2007 @ 4:13PM
Triforceowner said...
Well, Killzone 2 looks like a generic combination of Call of Duty (the skirmishes), Gears of War (the cover system), and Halo (the hulking enemy boss). The E305 trailer had a bit more promising outlook on the game's originality, and the E307 trailer seemed to focused too much on looking graphically like the E305 trailer and not enough like the E305 trailer gameplay-wise.
Now, Gears of War for the 360 is such a brilliant game even now it is hard to justify calling it inferior to even its port that only has more content. I'm sure Gears of War 2 will make Gears of War look inferior, but a PC port at this point can't exactly do that.
Also note that Unreal 3 and Haze are coming to the 360 some three to six months after they hit the PS3, but who really cares? BioShock, Medal of Honor: Airborne, Halo 3, The Orange Box, Hell's Highway, and Call of Duty 4 will keep the interest of any 360 FPS fan.
Not to mention the Haze trailer at the Sony press conference was an insult to gamers' intelligence.
Sony is cool, but Sony trolls suck, "Sony OWNED e3".
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7-13-2007 @ 4:36PM
Titty Pink said...
Gears "made" epic for this generation...and to think about it, Unreal never was considered a great shooter by console gamers (as far as I know). If this wasn't the case (that Gears made epic for the generation), they wouldn't have made the point to say "from the studio that brought you...(drum roll pls...GEARS OF WAR). I'm not even looking forward to the new UT AFTER the trailer. Just one more FPS rental. Any word on a campaign mode? William has a point about the controller though, but there are whispers of a keyboard/mouse capability w/ the PS3. I hate the combo, but a KB/M combo will pwn a controller any day of the week, and to mix the peripherals in an online shootout will produce bad results for the guy holding the controller. FPS games are OK for the PS3, but I still prefer the big potato (360 controller). Hell I prefered the first gen Xbox controller (you old school xbox fans remember the HUGE ones right?). Back to the topic, still pissed. I understand that it's smart business, but fortunately in America I still have the freedom to be pissed...and be ripped off by HMOs...and live with the fact that we've created a terrorist state in Iraq...
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7-13-2007 @ 5:21PM
Brave said...
"if we didn't have any sort of exclusive on the PC, why would people buy the PC version?"
Because they are too stupid to realize their computer isn't good enough to run Gears of War...
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7-13-2007 @ 5:31PM
Titty Pink said...
Generic huh? Resistance had some pretty huge bosses too. The cover system from Gears isn't original either (see Killswitch for the original Xbox, which sucked). Guyus just kill me sometimes. KZ didn't disappoint, but now its generic. Resistance was SWEET, but the controller didn't have rumble, and it wasn't shiny. You guys are funny man. Sad...
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7-13-2007 @ 5:32PM
FiddilyDee said...
Maybe if Cliffy was thinking or not towing the company line he would have been able to answer this simple question: People who have pc instead of a 360.
Damn that's complicated
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7-13-2007 @ 5:34PM
JD said...
now i'm PISSED!
/irony
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7-13-2007 @ 6:42PM
Tah said...
wow epic woulda went broke if it wasnt for 360 owners and then they stiff us like this? they wouldnt have even had enough money to make a damn pc version of the game nor would they want to if it wasnt for us.....
note to epic: you guys, are officially queers
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