Speaking with journalist and Xbox guru, Dean Takahashi, Bill Gates offered several jabs to both Sony and Nintendo in the wake of CES. Speaking on Nintendo, Gates expressed concern that the novelty of Wii could wear off without good graphics to go with it, and that he still considered Sony to be MS' biggest competitor (O RLY?). Regarding the PS3, Gates notes that the 360 has the advantage in every area. According to Gates, the 360 has good games, is easier to program, and is cheaper to produce. Because of the 360's head start, it also has the advantage of undergoing cost reduction at a much faster rate than the PS3 with its more costly components.Gates also stated that the PS3 has no advantage in terms of graphics and that it never will. In his words, Sony "burned a year" trying to get graphics out of the Cell processor, only to have Nvidia provide a chip at the last minute. Add to this the fact that the PS3 has no unified memory and that programmers have had longer to learn the intricacies of the 360 hardware, and the PS3 is caught in a cyclical game of catch-up.
Finally, Gates managed to squeeze in one more denial of a larger 360 hard drive on the horizon. When asked about the need for more space -- especially with IPTV and DVR functions on the way -- Gates responded that much IPTV data is stored on servers and storage is unnecessary. To wit: "We don't have to change the Xbox 360 at all." Uh huh, and 640 kilobytes is all we'll ever need, right?
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1-11-2007 @ 4:31PM
Russel said...
No offense, but Gates claims to have never said the 640K quote. I can see the 360 allowing the use of external hard drives to store data, but I'm not sure a larger hard drive SKU will come out only because of MS not wanting to lose face and look as if they underspecified the machine.
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1-11-2007 @ 4:37PM
MachRc said...
Ps3 never had the graphics advantage during its launch like the original xbox had over the ps2. When the original seXbox hit the stores, from day one it was superior and better than the ps2 visually ( and you can add on- cd rips, xbox live,detachable cords:P etc).
Too bad from day one ps3 has been nothing but a disapointment.
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1-11-2007 @ 4:46PM
homer simpson said...
PSPoop, poop poop poop... ooooo... is that a doughnut?
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1-11-2007 @ 4:46PM
Kev said...
Gates didn't say the line about 640K but he did say this:
"I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time..."
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bill_Gates
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1-11-2007 @ 4:53PM
Francky said...
You people realize that by saying that a bigger hard drive isn't necessary, as the IPTV media will be on a "server", he means that we will need a IPTV PVR, and the xbox will be nothing more than a media extender, kinda like it can do with Media Center now.
So Basically, all this "XBOX can do IPTV" was all BULLSHIT from the start.
Why in god's name would I want to use the XBOX to control my PVR, if I have it sitting next to it ?! It could be practical if I had the PVR in another room, but this was very misleading and stupid on their part. Since we assumed we could save up on having to buy a damn PVR.
As for the drive, at least gives us the option to remove the 7 gigs of crap that placed on it. I bought a 20 gig drive, not 13..
Assholes
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1-11-2007 @ 5:11PM
Mister2zx3 said...
This is beyond ridiculous at this point. 360 owners *NEED* a bigger HDD, *WANT* one, and are constantly and repeatedly asking for it, and yet they PR nonsense LIE is that, if there is enough demand, it will get done. Well there is demand and they keep the PR spin coming.
The 13 GB of usable space IS NOT adequate. a larger optional drive is being asked for, don't continue to dismiss and lie to everyone. Why is this being shot down? How much demand is enough?
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1-11-2007 @ 5:12PM
Richard Mitchell said...
"No offense, but Gates claims to have never said the 640K quote."
Huh. You learn something new every day. It's still funny, though :)
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1-11-2007 @ 5:14PM
Ken Stone said...
I bet they want to push something like the Windows Home Server and have the 360 store its data there instead of on the Xbox itself. I guess that would be cool if the Xbox could just use an external (not directly connected) storage location for everything.
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1-11-2007 @ 5:15PM
KineticOnline said...
If they arnt going to release a bigger hard drive then the least they can do if remove the fix partition sizing on the hard drives, then we would be able to put in whatever size of 2.5" hdd we wanted
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1-11-2007 @ 5:17PM
subsonicwave said...
i love everything about my 360, but there is one thing puzzling me about this HDD size and whether they will provide us with a bigger one. All our gamesaves are on this 20 gig drive. now i may be stupid but i can see a huge problem if they released a bigger drive. we'll all have to transfer this data to the new drive. and at present i think only 3rd party companies produce such hardware and software to do this. This is where i think they have a major problem. can we all be bothered to go through this transfer process. obviously the hardcore gamer would, but for the people who do not play so much can't see them being too happy, maybe i'm wrong.
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1-11-2007 @ 5:29PM
DarkBlades said...
360 is my favorite console. But in all Honesty, the 360 doesnt need gates to talk for it, its already talking for its self.
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1-11-2007 @ 5:29PM
J.Goodwin said...
That 7 gigs is reserved for system files and cache. A large amount of that is reserved for Xbox compatibility, since the Xbox had a minimum spec hard drive in every box.
You get it back, you lose data caching and Xbox backward compatibility. Personally, I think it's a fair trade.
And part of that 20 gigs is phantom anyway (drive sizes are typically advertised in gigabytes not gibibytes.) When you start looking at the drive from the computer's perspective, you don't have 20 gigabytes, you have 18.6 gibibytes. So you're "missing" 6.4 gigs, part of which is also used up by the file system itself rather than files.
For an example of this effect, I recently bought a couple of "320 gigabyte" hard drives. When you format them, the system reports that they are actually 298 gigabytes (what technical people have started calling gibibytes because it's too damn confusing to use both gigabyte for both decimal and binary counting of file systems).
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1-11-2007 @ 5:29PM
SeanP said...
Thank god I've already replace my Xbox360 hard drive with 80Gb one ; It's just too easy, a little Google and that was done !
The original one ? gone on Ebay ...
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1-11-2007 @ 5:30PM
JRock3x8 - 2o2p said...
Where are the sony fanboys? this is very disappointing :>
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1-11-2007 @ 5:33PM
J.Goodwin said...
5.4 because I'm an idiot.
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1-11-2007 @ 5:36PM
Scott Krueger said...
Gates is the Luckiest Idiot in the World.
He Illegally Marketed Windows which used to cost $49. Now that is the Only viable system he Charges over $200.
Never owned a "Good" ATI Chipset, myself.
Every Nvidia Card I got was ALWAYS Better.
Unified Memory does not make it easier to Program for. Just because his Idiot Programmers can't figure out how to make a Stable anything.
The Vista catch Phrase should be the Same for the last releases of Windows "Have You Rebooted your Computer Today?"
If the 360 is so easy to program for then why does mine Lock up from time to time on certain games???
But of course Bill Gates thinks this, He owns the Xbox after all. He would say anything true or not to discredit his competition whether it is Sony or Nintendo or Sega or IBM, etc.
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1-11-2007 @ 5:39PM
LMAO said...
Be prepare to upgrade to Vista if you want IPTV, extender, and Live anywhere feature. Which also means be prepare to update those Athlon 64 processors you bought 3 years ago that was suppose to be future proof, along with the extinct AGP slots. So much for putting a 64-bit processor to good use before it is outdated.
It's pretty pathetic that to get the whole package with the 360, you basically need a Vista computer. Who didn't see this coming?
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1-11-2007 @ 5:40PM
movieman200x said...
I'm curious about his statement that Sony tried to do graphics with the cell and had nvidia do it at the last minute. I think that's a load of garbage, since I was at E3 2005 when the system was unveiled and they said it was using nvidia from the get-go.
Now, I'm an Xbox360 owner/supporter all the way, but he really needs to think about what he says before he spouts off things that make him seem naive.
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1-11-2007 @ 5:46PM
digiNic said...
It must be the crack. again.
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1-11-2007 @ 5:53PM
aragorn said...
Gates statement in regards to the PS3 I think is a half truth. Knowing Sony, the PS3 is going to be like the PS2: it'll be capable of absolutely AMAZING graphics... but only so many companies will have the funds, the time, and the know how to figure out how to fully impliment it in a game.
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