Xbox 360 Fanboy

Ubisoft retracted the 1080p comment. It was a misunderstanding between a representative and the Kotaku guy (if I recall). You'll still have to wait a while for native 1080p content to arrive for the 360.

Reply

It looks great, not spectacular. I'm playing it on a Dell 24" LCD (2405FPW). It doesn't really seem to be 1080p but perhaps it's just my perception since I've come to expect sharper images at that resolution with PC games running at the same resolution. Perhaps it's being upscaled and an update to the game is needed, or maybe it's just my eyes. For now, I would say getting a 1080p TV is overkill. The game is beautiful at 720p and looks better at 1080p but I couldn't justify the extra cost of a TV that supports that resolution. However, for those of us with monitors that support 1920x1080, go get yourself a VGA cable.

Reply

@qbix

Thanks for your reply in the other post. I'll probably pick up the VGA cable sometime soon. I hope that it's quite a bit sharper than using component, because currently my 360 looks a lot better on my 26" CRT HDTV than on my 2405 using component.

Reply

qbix, I must have missed your "other post"...I have a 2405 as well, but I am connecting over component. Is the difference with the vga cable very noticeable?

Reply

A CRT will always look better than a LCD for anything but viewing text.

Reply

Scott is right. LCDs are getting better but can't match CRTs but for most people the much lower size beats the better picture.

Reply

I agree with Scott, a CRT will always look better than an LCD and it kills any other technology in terms of response time.

As for your question Wargazm, between component and VGA the deal breaker for me was response time. VGA is much faster than component on this monitor. Not quite the response time of a CRT but close enough that it doesn't bother me to play a few rounds of GeoWars. Mind you, I'm talking about differences in milliseconds and not everyone will notice them but I am one of those people who can't settle for video lag after playing on a CRT for years, but I digress.

In terms of image quality, I'd have to give it to VGA as well. If you look closely, you'll notice how the component image contains really sharp artifacts in certain places. It's normal because an HDTV will not pick this up, specially since they are made to be viewed at a distance. However, on a computer monitor which is sitting about 40 centimeters in front of you, you'll notice such things, and jaggies will become very apparent. With VGA, these artifacts are gone, and now with support for 1920x1080 the image is that much better.

I do have one reservation though, when it comes to color saturation and contrast, I prefer the way component looks as opposed to VGA. You can adjust the image within the service menu while on VGA mode, but it's hard to make it quite as rich as component. It's a small price to pay in my opinion.

So, again, I would encourage whoever has a monitor capable of 1920x1080 to at least give the VGA cable a try.

Reply

Plasma pWns all!!!

Reply

Just a quick note to say that the VGA cable looks a hell of a lot better on the Dell 2407 than component does.

Only problem is that there is some 'haircombing' artifacts when driving the 2407 at 1080p with the new fall update.

See: http://forums.xbox.com/7747847/ShowPost.aspx

Reply

My opinion, im running on a Dell 37 LCD HDTV, on 1080i, i tried 1080p, but i only got a black screen, im not really a total tech nerd, does this mean i don't have the capabilities? Or do i need different cables for the 360? Any help would be greatly appreciated..

Scott - Im loving my LCD, i have no qualms of response time.. Seems to go very fast.. no ghosting. I saw a very significant change from CRT.. But then, like i said, not much of a tech freak.. :)

Reply

At 1080 resolution, the difference between interlaced and progressive scan video isn't making THAT much of a difference and I work with this shit for a living.

Reply

@ 360us Maxuimus : It depends what frame rate the game runs at. 1080p60 native content is -a lot- better than 1080i60 content, regardless of what you do for a living.

Reply

I don't think this is a true resolution change like on a PC.

The difference between 1080i and 1080p is zero - although I see a bit more 'shimmering' on the dashboard than usual. That is it.

I played a whole bunch of games that were upconverted - they look the same as when I played them at 1080i.

Not a big deal, but my TV takes 1080p via component and it is nice to see 1080p flash on the OSD so I will probably just leave it at this res.

Reply

"runs at. 1080p60 native content is -a lot- better than 1080i60 content, regardless of what you do for a living."

Just making a point, no need to be a pompous ass.
And what do YOU do exactly that makes you the expert might I ask?

Reply

1080p..wow..SWeet

Reply

To be honest you probably need a nice fast game to really appreciate the difference between 1080i60 and 1080p60 and then its not like your eyes can really dissern a great deal other than a slight bit less flicker (Especially as on an LCD your upconverting to 1080p60 anyways. You will just be using a slight bit less information to generate a 1080p imaage)

Reply

This is all about bragging rights. There is no real world benefit of 1080i (showing as 1080p on an LCD, a technology which is inherently progressive-scan.) or 1080p on the same LCD.

If you see a difference, your HDTV must take up a whole room in your house.

Reply