Xbox 360 Fanboy

Don't underestimate the Primetime 1 vs. 100 gameshow concept. I think with real cash prizes huge buzz for this game could build very quickly. I think you'll see Avatars used more for these types of games than anything else.

10-15 years old? You mean the same age group best known for playing games like Grand Theft Auto and Halo 3?

Seriously, if there's anything Nintendo has shown us, it's that it's the *older* age groups who aren't afraid to play around with the kiddy stuff. They aren't the ones desperately trying to hide their own inadequacies by surrounding themselves with untold amounts of Teen or Mature game titles.

so its ok for sony to rip off nintendo ... home personas vs mii's but because microsoft picks a middle ground between realistic and cartoon fully their the bad guys... i mean seriously get over it...

as for the install even on my 20gb drive its useful especially at 6-7gb... why? i only really focus on 1 game at a time anyway, so ill install it play it for weeks/month... and then delete it when im tired of that game.

It was kinda strange to hear nothing IPTV related at E3... but I think that's not supposed to come before the end of 08 anyway...

As for Netflix, it's a US only (as far as I know) web-based DVD rental company that also fairly recently started a streaming movie service... this update will allow Netflix/XBL Gold subscribers to use their 360 as a way to stream movies from netflix.

Chris I was only stating something and said that it was a rip off of miis. Where else would have MS got this idea from? These faces look very similar to the miis. Normally you would find MS doing something new that hasn't been done. Chris I dont need to get over anything cuz it dosn't bother me that much and just was a opinion I had and sharing it with others.

MS and any of their retail partners who carry the peripherals make a huge amount of money on them. Although it would be in consumer's best interest to install whatever drive we'd like... it is most certainly not in MS or Best Buy/Gamestop/your favorite place to buy hardware best interests, it'll never happen...

unless you don't mind doing a bit of modding, in which case you have that ability right now ;)

I understand that, but I cant imagine MS is making that much money off the 120 GB HDDs. Maybe they are, Id really like to see the numbers.

Id love to have a bigger hard drive but there's no way im spending over $100 for one.

I think if they

a) made the hard drives they offer MUCH cheaper, they would fly off the shelves,

or

b) allowed us to use store regular hard drives that are much cheaper, but still forcing a download of the software to limit piracy

...then people would probably purchase and download more movies, games, etc.

Unless these drives they make are flying off the shelves, I think they would make more money in the long run by using one or both of these options I listed.

Well, I doubt they're exactly flying off the shelves, but they're obviously selling at a good enough clip that MS hasn't felt the need to change the price in the year or so it's been available...

Considering the actual cost of the hardware in the drive, I'd suspect that MS is actually making pretty good money on these, and the retailers are doing even better. Remember the consoles themselves don't make much money for MS or the retailers; but that's a planned part of the industry (well in MS and Sony's case at least, Nintendo has proudly bragged that they've never taken a loss on a console); the loss on the consoles however is made up through peripheral sales (this is once place retailers really clean up afaik) and of course game licensing/sales.

yeah, that's still piracy. if you bought or rented FF13 from gamefly, installed 4 discs, you could keep the first disc and just throw in a dvd with 'Disc 1 label fake'.

i don't think it's that bad to still switch between discs.

i look forward to this update.

not so much on the avatars...hope i can still keep my Ninja Gaiden 2 gamerpic (worked so hard to get that! lol)