Friday, in Bungie's Weekly Update, Luke Smith took on the
Halo 3 640p resolution rumor head on and confirmed that
Halo 3 does output natively at 1152x640 resolution and is up-converted by the Xbox 360 to either 720p or 1080p. But, before smoke comes spewing out of your ears because you feel cheated out of 80p, know that Bungie has a semi-good reason for reducing the pixel count ... high dynamic range lighting! Yes sir, during development the dev team calculated (through very geeky methods) that in order to make
Halo 3 run smoothly and use two filters to create amazing HDR lighting effects they'd have to compromise and go with a slightly lower resolution. Bungie didn't tell this before, because they thought it wasn't all that important and didn't want the internets to blow it out of proportion (too late for that). Anyway, don't feel cheated about the resolution, because you have pretty HDR lighting to fill your 80p void and we know you couldn't tell the resolution difference anyway. Could you?
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9-30-2007 @ 11:17PM
Dash said...
I love how people keep ignoring all of the posts that explain why Halo 3 is in 640p. I'll write it in caps just for the idiots who can't bother to skim over three posts.
IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE FRAMERATE AND HDR BUNGIE DECIDED TO HAVE THE GAME RUN IN 640p WITH DUAL FRAME BUFFERS. ONE PRODUCES THE HIGHER RANGES OF LIGHT, THE OTHER DOES THE LOWER. THIS ESSENTIALLY MEANS THAT THE 360 IS RENDERING THE IMAGE TWICE.
If bungie wanted to have it run in "true" HD they could have knocked off a frame buffer. Of course this would have killed the HDR engine and the game wouldn't look nearly as good as it does now, but that doesn't matter to some people(AKA idiots.)
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10-01-2007 @ 1:26AM
AIR_Irish said...
lol this is actually pretty funny.
just proves that "if" their game was put on a Blu-ray disc that it would have been able to be at a full 720p or 1080p res. Games on HDDVDs won't make much sense in the future when the games are very big in themselves and need more capacity. and for the reason and many others is why Blu-ray is the choice over HD-DVD. Sony pwns Toshiba. lol
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10-01-2007 @ 3:51AM
Anticrawl said...
Yeah the lighting in this game is incredible. Always loved the soft natural glow characters get around the edges when in light. Some of it is a little over the top, but I still love it. Plus can't beat the vibrant colors. Would much rather the bright assortment of colors and lighting than a drab colored game like Gears, COD4 or Killzone 2 honestly. But those games each have their good points.
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10-01-2007 @ 3:57AM
Anticrawl said...
AIR Irish, capacity doesn't have anything to do with the issue at hand. It is nearly impossible for any GPU on any platform to push AA, HDR, and High Res at the same time. Until the next batch of Nvidia cards it was impossible to have max AA and HDR running in a game. But with ATi it was, in any case capacity doesn't matter here, go away with your silly ps3 comments. If you really wanna go at it then try researching the theoretical to actual performace comparisons for the PS3 and 360, all in all the 360 is a better machine without the hardware reliablity. Then again the PS3 hasn't been out as long so we can't really tell how reliable it is yet. Sony and Toshiba are both fools for trying to push the Blue laser tech on consumers and the market when the red laser tech hasn't had it's full potential tapped yet. Just go check out VMD's, which read, write, and can hold more than HDDVD and Blue-Ray combined as of now.
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10-01-2007 @ 5:27AM
GhostDoggy said...
So, what Bungie is saying is that in order to provide a minimum set of lighting experiences in the game and having to work with the overly limited hardware resources they had to cop out and go HD-lite?
Now I put Bungie in the same category as DirecTV (for the less than HD offering), and then think twice about the hardware in my 360.
Hopefully Microsoft plans on reinventing the 360 with more powerful hardware or we are going to expect my game developers copping out of the high definition experience with HDlite offerings.
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10-01-2007 @ 10:46AM
ThatDudeReeg said...
I'm not upset about it, but I can tell the difference on my 22" widescreen.
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10-01-2007 @ 2:12PM
cytamius said...
I've wasted all the time it takes to read through all these and in between the intelligent discussion and researched posts all I hear is a whole lot of...
WAAAAAHHHH WAAAAAH I WANT MY 80PIXLES!!! WAAAAHHH ITS NOT HD DESPITE ALL THE INFO THAT SAYS OTHERWISE! WAAAAAHHHH XBOX SUXORS AND PS3 PWNS!!!
Its shit like this that keeps me from wanting to post very often here. For every intelligent person there are 5 that should be prevented from breeding. This whole argument is pointless and moot in the light that the game is still a blast to play.
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10-01-2007 @ 3:28PM
DocParanoia said...
[raises glass]
Here's to me not caring about it.
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10-01-2007 @ 5:19PM
mike said...
WAAAAAHHHH WAAAAAH I WANT MY 80PIXLES!!! WAAAAHHH ITS NOT HD DESPITE ALL THE INFO THAT SAYS OTHERWISE! WAAAAAHHHH XBOX SUXORS AND PS3 PWNS!!!
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10-01-2007 @ 11:23PM
BTex said...
oh well.
so much for next gen.
maybe we'll get true HD on the xbox720 in a year or 2?
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10-20-2007 @ 10:45PM
Lord_von_Punx said...
hey you know what i disagree with all you people..HALO 3 looks liek crap.. thanks to bungies..(stuid geek method.. thinking it would be better.. they have assed the game cuz they are fukin lazy ass bitches.. and thats not the reason why they didnt bother to tell us about the 640p crap.. isnt because they didnt think no one would care... . they didnt tell because they knew damn well they wopuld get as much sales as the bastards.. got.. i mean halo 2 looks better then this game..i remember the beta was fine.. but this game has major jaggies.. soo bad i cant play it.. i made vids on you youtube about halo 3 jaggies.. this is crap .. i played on a 42 hl 196 toshiba.. just got a samsung 22inch moniter with 2ms response time looks like crap still.. maybee if we all had 640p ?? hdtv you fukin morons at bungie we could have a awsome game.. in stead we underscale it.. at 480p.. or underscale it.. i only bougth the crap box for halo 3 you guys blow
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