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More Shadowrun, no TrueSkill matchmaking


We reported yesterday that Shadowrun will feature a party based matchmaking system, flying in the face of Epic's claims that Microsoft does not allow the feature. It looks like we might owe Epic an apology. 360Arcadians revealed in an interview with Knuckles Dawson, who had a chance to actually play Shadowrun, that the game will not use TrueSkill. TrueSkill is Microsoft's in house matchmaking system, and according to Knuckles, it was tossed by FASA -- creators of Shadowrun -- because it does not allow friends in ranked matches. FASA has opted instead to use their own matchmaking system.

Gears of War uses TrueSkill, so it looks like Epic's reasoning for not including a party system is valid after all. The interview also contains lots of information about Shadowrun. If you're interested in Shadowrun, you should definitely give it a listen.

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J.Goodwin1

12-07-2006 @ 4:27PM

J.Goodwin said...

I thought TrueSkill was a TRC on 360.

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David2

12-07-2006 @ 4:28PM

David said...

Their reason isn't valid, it's just as lazy. Yes trueskill is the default matchmaking API that microsoft provides. However, if the developer wants to, they are more than able to create their own matchmaking system (Halo 2, shadowrun)

If Epic would have taken the time to impliment this then they too could have had their own team matchmaking. I assume that they must be doing this for UT2007 on the 360.

Also microsoft should just force bungie to sell their matchmaking as middleware, they own them anyways.

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VeHeMeNcE3

12-07-2006 @ 4:38PM

VeHeMeNcE said...

I highly doubt Microsoft forces companies from having ranked friend matchmaking....

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Knuckles Dawson4

12-07-2006 @ 5:47PM

Knuckles Dawson said...

Well, EA's Burnout Revenge for 360 used ELO, and Farcry Instincts: Predator used something along those lines as well. So the whole TRC thing for 360 games may not be as true as you believe, J.Goodwin.

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Insomnious5

12-07-2006 @ 10:14PM

Insomnious said...

I've never been particularly fond of ranked matches, as leaderboard standings never really held much meaning for me. I was much more keen on Halo 2's matchmaking, or Burnout's ELO where you were ranked for ALL games you played, but could play with friends or the same group of people constantly.

Ranked matches kinda ruin the 'community' feel of Xbox Live, and become more of a hassle than enjoyable when you're kicked out after each match and have to look for a new lobby again and again.

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Stormy1516

12-07-2006 @ 11:35PM

Stormy151 said...

Microsoft should sell licenses or even adopt Bungie's as the standard matchmaking system- it works so well.

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DaKing2407

12-08-2006 @ 3:09AM

DaKing240 said...

Great news Knuckles... keep up the good work... (a proud member of, say it with me now... http://www.x360a.org)

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Aryzona Bay8

12-08-2006 @ 3:10PM

Aryzona Bay said...

Saints Row allows friends/parties in ranked matchmaking - and also uses trueskill.

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