Xbox 360 Fanboy

Maverick Saturn:

If that's the impression you got, you should not have put "crap" in quotes. I made a simple, flameless post and your post tried to turn it into typical fanboy crap.

My post had nothing to do with the merits of porting MGS4 and everything to do with responding to people who said that 50gig foot print was an insurmountable obstacle.

The fact is, we have at least 2 examples of games developed for the PS3 being ported quite successfully to the 360. The previously exclusive Assassin's Creed and the more recent Burnout (developed first on the PS3 and ported to the 360). And at least the Burnout developers commented on the relative ease of porting from the PS3 to the 360.

If you want to argue that it's a mistake for Konami to do the port for other reasons.. that's fine. But that wasn't the crux of my post and nothing you've written lends any weight to your argument that doing the port would be difficult nor have you addressed the point that I brought up that the structure of the game... distinct and seperate levels and mandatory multiple installs between acts lends itself well to a multi-disc format.

If the game were structured in such a way that you needed to go back and forth between the various acts... then I would agree that a multi-disc format would be detrimental. But for the most part, the game is very linear and structured into distinct segments.

MGS4's cutscenes were done using the in-game engine, meaning they take up very little space in comparison.

The ipod statement is a bit redundant
I hear Sony also make music players...



Walksound...Walkguy....Runman, something or other, apparently it's quite popular.

Why would it be watered down? You actually believe that PS3 outperforms 360 or vise-versa? if you do then name a game on PS3 that does something another game on 360 can't do?

First of, I'm not here to say that it will come to 360. I'm here to say that if Sony would allow it, the game could be done, the expenses wouldn't be as great as you are insinuating and the game wouldn't be as bad.

Yes the game is on blu-ray and took up MAD space, but because of blu-ray's read speed a lot of data has to be doubled up on every game and not to mention that the game has several installs. The reason I mention those issues is because having multiple discs would probably play similarly since you have to stop and install. (ie.stop and switch disc).

You do realize that developing for 360 is MUCH easier and cheaper right? MS is a software company and as such have developed the best dev tools. I once read on Kotaku.com that Farcry devs had 2 guys working on the 360 port as opposed to 14 on the ps3 port.

So there you have it, yes the game is on blu-ray but DVD-9 implementation is possible and probably can be done on 3 discs. While it would cost Konami to port it, it would not cost them as much as it took to build (porting it would be a fraction of that price) and it would most definitively make 10 times MORE money then it took to build. So tell me what does Konami lose?

Ps: I don't know if you know but FYI, MGS4 uses 7.1 surround sound. It's common knowledge that sound files are the most space consuming files on games. Take 2 channels off and you got 5.1, compress it and you got yourself a MUCH smaller file.

I honestly think that the game could fit on 2 DVD-9 using 5.1 audio and then compressing it instead of using 7.1 Lossless (uncompressed), removing redundant data and compressing any other large files using MS superior compressing software.

"You do know what Konami is in business to do, right? --Make money. That would be the motivation for going multi-console. "

There is also a motivation for staying exclusive...SELLING EXCLUSIVITY

"It's still going to sell another million copies on day one on Xbox 360, netting $60 million in sales."

What?...so since you can read the future, could you tell me next week lotto numbers?

"And don't give me that crap about it being "too hard" to port. Complex games get ported from console to console all the time. MGS4 is no different. (If GTA IV is on both consoles, MGS4 should be a cakewalk."

GTA4 and multiplatform EA games are developed FROM THE GROUND UP to be multiplatform, MGS4 was developed as an exclusive PS3 title, and it takes advantage of many features that are only present on the PS3

"And one of those "conversations" in the game that would have to be changed is a freaking cutscene pushing blu-ray (thereby bashing the 360). Not a big loss there. Maybe it distracted you from the install time."

Im going to just stop arguing because it is clear that you don't know much about this game, there is much more content that is PS3 related, hence why I said that it was more than just porting the code. Kid, you should really inform yourself more about what you want to argue about if you don't want your own statements to come back and bite you in the ass...

Noshiro, I don't really have an opinion on whether it will or will not come to 360. Frankly, not being interested in the game, I only have mild curiosity about the possibility. However, you keep mentioning how MGS4 was designed to use many of the features that only PS3 has, but you also continue to not state what these are.

What does MGS4 use on PS3 that couldn't be ported to 360? The only thing I'm aware of (although admittedly ignorant on this particular game) is the extra bluRay storage space. As noted before, this could easily be broken out to multiple discs.

Cant we all be friends.................yeah right ps3 is horrible YAY FLAMEWAR PS3 SUCKS YAY FLAMEWAR lol

Noshiro STFU you freaking TROLL !!! The reason MGS4 might never be on 360 is not because of tech difficulties. But rather because Sony might not allow it.

First of, I'm not here to say that it will come to 360. I'm here to say that if Sony would allow it, the game could be done, it wouldn't be gimped and the expenses wouldn't be as great as you are insinuating.

Yes the game is on blu-ray and took up MAD space, but because of blu-ray's read speed a lot of data has to be doubled up on every game and not to mention that the game has several installs. The reason I mention those issues is because having multiple discs would probably play similarly since you have to stop and install. (ie.stop and switch disc).

You do realize that developing for 360 is MUCH easier and cheaper right? MS is a software company and as such have developed the best dev tools. I once read on Kotaku.com that Farcry devs had 2 guys working on the 360 port as opposed to 14 on the ps3 port.

So there you have it, yes the game is on blu-ray but DVD-9 implementation is possible and probably can be done on 3 discs. While it would cost Konami to port it, it would not cost them as much as it took to build (porting it would be a fraction of that price) and it would most definitively make 10 times MORE money then it took to build. So tell me what does Konami lose?

Ps: I don't know if you know but FYI, MGS4 uses 7.1 surround sound. It's common knowledge that sound files are the most space consuming files on games. Take 2 channels off and you got 5.1, compress it and you got yourself a MUCH smaller file.

I honestly think that the game could fit on 2 DVD-9 using 5.1 audio and then compressing it instead of using 7.1 Lossless (uncompressed), removing redundant data and compressing any other large files using MS superior compressing software.

A better question is are YOU ("u" in your language, I believe) serious? You should at least try to do a little research. The Blu-Ray format is not owned by Sony, and I don't see how the BDA would "make Microsoft pay" any more than any other company. :P