Xbox 360 Fanboy

great! now we get to play against modders in halo 3! oh, joyous occasion! Way to go guys! Ruin the hopes and dreams of all the gamers who have been yearning for a legit gaming experience. Get a life.

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"Back-up" games? Who really backs up games? Let's please call it what it is as being able to play PIRATED games.

Modding consoles has become a gateway to piracy. It has become the downfall of rental businesses that get their revenue from REPEATED rentals of games, to make up the cost first, profit next, and sell it used.

Even though modifying consoles can "unlock the potential" of powerful hardware, the majority of the modding community has used the hard work of many people for their selfish purposes.

If you can't afford games, don't steal it. You don't, I repeat: DON'T, need games. It's disgusting when someone uses that as an excuse to their ripping / burning games. It's not the "I steal bread to feed my starving family" situation. If you can buy the hardware, you can certainly buy the software.

Another thought:
The price of games are certainly high. But the sooner a game/project earns money to make up costs and make profit, the savings can then be passed on to late adopters from the dropping of prices sooner.

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I have no problem with modding the 360 to do home brew or stream video, but unfortunately Joe is right. It seems that the primary purpose of modding and hacking is to pirate games.

If I were to poll every person who has a modded XBox (and they were truthful), how many of those people would have at least one pirated game?

I think the percentage would be very high.

People can spout platitudes, and talk about the poor quality of games, and about not supporting evil corporations.

But if they really want to affect change then they have to actually NOT play the games. When they pirate, they undermine everything they stand for. Which is why I believe that when you pirate, your base reason is to get something for nothing. And because people can't willingly do something they feel is wrong, they will invent "legitimate" reasons to get what they want.

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Please, you want us to believe you guys bought a Xbox to play homebrew? What is that thing called a PC for? This is just another excuse to run pirated games. But since I don't care about Microsoft or their Xbox, hack away my friends and maybe the Xbox can finally go away like the Dreamcast did.

But don't hide behind a feeble excuse of running homebrew.

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Not everyone who wants to see the 360 hacked wants so to play pirated games or use cheats. I bought the 360 primarily on the promise Microsoft made that the 360 would be a media hub in the living room. Being able to stream audio, photos, video AND play cutting edge videogames all on the same device was VERY enticing.

MS failed to deliver on their promise. The 360 is locked down so tight that I cannot place my own videos or audio files on the 360 harddrive. They claimed that a 360 could play audio, video, and photos from a XP system (no WMCE required). But they since backed off the claims for video.

MS can either step up to the plate and deliver on what they promised or some sharp people on the internet can. I don't care who does it.

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Have fun throwing your money away. I'll be playing for free as soon as it becomes available.

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This is amazing news. Whats wrong with all you anti-piracy people? Unless you make games for the xbox 360, why do you care if people steal the games? I would enjoy playing fun games which you know are to short for a purchase or even a rental (like gauntlet: seven surrows on xbox1)

The best part about the xbox 360, seems to be the fact that once the modders come in, they wont be able to hit live at all. Microsoft can simply release mandatory dashboard updates (as they do now) which prevent people with modded xbox 360s from going online. This is damn near perfect. Now we will get the awsomeness of FTP, divx, file storage, bigger non-pirproitory hard drives without having to worry about modders in games like halo 3.

I agree moddin ruined online play back on the xbox, but with the 360 auto updates, modding will only be for pirating and media center greateness and will leave the cheating in online games alone. That is perfect. Why would you complain about that?

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Uh... what's the problem with flashing the firmware?
What do you think a modchip even is?
It's just a spare bank to hold such information as opposed to the oringal chip on the actual console.

I say bring on the hacking.
Unlock the consoles real capabilities.

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Hey Joe... Just so you know, I've been an HDAdvance user for over a year now. There isn't one single pirated game on it - they're all discs from my collection of purchased games. It justs so happens that having the games on a hard drive speeds up load times, makes life more convenient, and allows me to take just my PS2 to gatherings rather than worry about whether or not my import games are going to be stolen.

So there *are* legitimate uses for circumventing the need for game discs. If I could transfer my 360 discs to the HD for fast QUIET play? Oh man, I'd be thrilled.

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I completely agree with you, Sinistar. I for one also have a modified Xbox that has all my Red vs. Blue episodes (hi-res versions) and TV on DVD converted to Divx (Nothing can beat XBMC. Only Halo 2, Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, and Street Fighter Anniversary Collection are ripped onto the drive, and yes, I own those games.

Yes, there are it's uses. But unfortunately, the majority of modders use the capabilities of these awesome systems with the cost of the demise of rental businesses.

I reiterate that because I used to work for a small rental business that did very well until the common use of modded systems. People would rent 4 games at a time for 1 night and never rent that game again. I jumped ship because that business is now going down the toilet. One huge and obvious example: rental revenue for the first Halo was 20 times as much as Halo 2. Wonder why?

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if modders can get online on the xbox, then can get online on the 360. All the modder has to do is hack the maps which are stored on the hard drive, and then disable their modchip and voila, instant 100% accuracy sniper rifles, unlimited health, flying warthogs, and 100 mile high jumps.

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Yeah... I'm at a lost of words too. Are we supposed to be openly happy about this news? Support the hacking community? It's one thing if these people took faulty programming released by big bad companies and improved on it for the better of users everywhere, but when the hacking is primarily aimed at pirating games and turning a console into a low powered pc there is little to support or be happy about.

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I would like to see the 360 open more....that is one of the reasons I bought it.

When my orignal Xbox died I held on to the games since I knew I would have the 360 in a month (sadly
not all of those games are backward compatible).

Yes you read that right, I owned a modded console and bought my games.
So why mod it? It was my media hub.
The only thing I shed tears over is losing my XBMC, but MS really pushed the 360 as a media hub so I didn't worry about.

I hope MS opens this system up soon to video streaming and the rest of that list they promised, because to be honest I DON'T want to mod my 360.....but if I can't get the features from them I will go elsewhere.

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craft, you are an idiot. Piracy effects us all.

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Backups would be REALLY nice. PGR3 takes forever to load between each race. I'm sure it would be much faster if all that data was loading up from the HD. I'm actually rather surprised that MS didn't implement some sort of caching system whereby the inserted disc is cached to the HD while it's in the DVD drive and erased when it is removed from the drive.

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"Unless you make games for the xbox 360, why do you care if people steal the games?"

If half the people buy it those people need to pay twice the price to pay off a team of 200 developers that spent 3 years of their life making that game.

That happens to be something I care about yeah.

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Maybe that's why Microsoft went to a new DVD drive unit in the Xbox 360 in later batches.

What about the system firmware/software doing a crc check on the dvd drive firmware to see if it was not tampered with to prevent booting of backups?

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