During their interview with Cliffy B, the guys over at CVG learned an interesting Gears of War 2 achievement fact that will probably make "achievement whores" a bit furious. Scratch that, it will make achievement whores furious.As it's currently planned, Epic will be "throttling" GoW2's achievements by limiting how much unlocking progress can be made per game or round. Cliffy gave an example of the unlocking system by saying that "if you're going for headshots, you get one headshot that counts and any other headshots won't count towards your Achievement" which is being done "so players don't just play to get headshots the entire round just to get Achievements." It's an interesting idea, but one we aren't sure we (or any achievement addicts for that matter) fully embrace.
[Thanks, shay07]
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5-15-2008 @ 11:49AM
callum henderson said...
They are doing what they did with the Gears PC achievements then - and believe me they took a Loooong time to earn.
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5-15-2008 @ 11:51AM
TORO said...
I think it's a good idea, in the end it's whores against whores.
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5-15-2008 @ 11:52AM
Matthew said...
My brother-in-law works for Epic, and he says the entire staff hates Cliffy B. The ENTIRE staff. So I don't know whether or not it was his idea to cap achievements like that, but I'm going to hate him all the same for it.
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5-15-2008 @ 2:15PM
Andrew said...
The guy seems like a toolbag to me...this is just another reason not to buy this overrated game.
5-15-2008 @ 11:55AM
Cal said...
If it reduces tagging then I'm all for it...
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5-15-2008 @ 11:58AM
thisguyrighthere said...
Wouldn't this make them less like achievements and more like accidents?
If you're going for a headshot achievement then you have to go for headshots. If you only get one that counts per round or something then you wouldn't bother going for them. They would just happen whenever they happened making it much more a matter of dumb waiting and grinding than an actual accomplishment. Why have achievements at all if they're going to be reduced to a counting of random happenings that may or may not happen. This is idiotic.
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5-15-2008 @ 12:05PM
DeadlyFrenchman said...
Cliffy B i thought u were cool..........ur not
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5-15-2008 @ 12:12PM
ogvor said...
Yeah! I for one hate online achievements! Getting into a game where half your team isn't really trying becuase they have to use one weapon or grenade tag or whatever is really annoying. I hope Epic either does this or just does away with online acheivements completely.
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5-15-2008 @ 12:19PM
PlayHarder said...
They should make it like COD4, no multiplayer achievements.
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5-15-2008 @ 12:23PM
UNSCleric said...
There goes my purchase of GoW2, just going to be a rental now. This destroys the replay value..the little that the game had to begin with.
They should have just made them kill-related, or lots of cool single player ones. Epic sucks, as usual.
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5-15-2008 @ 12:30PM
peter said...
MY GOD Stop teasing me...that's guy is soooo freaking hot
LOVE HIM
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5-15-2008 @ 12:30PM
brian woolley said...
hmm.. i see this a devious way of extending game life.. and also to perhaps maintain the #1 spot longer
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5-15-2008 @ 12:36PM
Gemini Ace said...
Just keep the cheevos out of multiplayer, Cliffy. Otherwise, quit effing with the system.
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5-15-2008 @ 12:36PM
ScrewTheJapanese said...
They going to fix the absurd host advantage? I see plenty of talk about the multiplayer by Cliffy Douche, but no one is commenting on the thing that made GOW unfair and unplayable to me.
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5-15-2008 @ 1:03PM
Chuckles said...
I loved the GOW single player as I mostly played it coop with friends.... then I tried the multi and stopped playing it after about 5 games. Host advantage is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. The host already has a connection advantage and now they give him more damage????? Oh and waiting 5 minutes for a game to start and then you die and have to wait 3 or more minutes just for the next round is retarted.
5-15-2008 @ 12:36PM
Dom said...
This is a great idea in my opinion. Achievement whores really ruin games. Hopefully they will cut the achievement in half to only 50 headshots total. And if there is a God, please no Seriously achievement Cliffy. I'm proud of my Seriously achievement no doubt but it was a pain in the ass.
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5-15-2008 @ 12:38PM
DupontNumber24 said...
Doesn't matter to me. I sucked so bad at multiplayer on GOW that I could only get one headshot per game anyway.
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5-15-2008 @ 12:38PM
felkadelic said...
I'll echo other the sentiments of other posters that many multiplayer achievements ruin the online gaming experience. I'd be happy if the only multiplayer achievements were related to winning rounds, or things like that -- achievements related to playing the game well as it was originally intended, not related to weapon whoring.
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5-15-2008 @ 12:39PM
Mark C. said...
This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of. Stop worrying about how you can force someone to play the game and focus on the game itself. Your achievements in the first game were so stupid that many people boosted to get them. Don't setup such stupid/ridiculously high achievements and maybe people won't boost as much.
And here is a question. WHO CARES IF PEOPLE BOOST? The Achievements are MEANINGLESS. You don't get anything for them, you can't cash them in, and you don't get any prizes for them. So grow up Cliffy B and stop being stupid.
If you don't want boosting, then put all the achievements in the SP game. It worked just fine for Call of Duty 4.
Needless to say, I will be talking about this in the next episode of the Xbox Podcast. That is for sure.
www.xboxpodcast.com
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5-15-2008 @ 12:40PM
Ryan Hartman said...
If they don't want people to horde weapons to focus on a given achievement ... don't make it an achievement. Simple as that.
People mention COD4s robust online experience as having no multiplayer achievements to speak of and while I think it's a good example, I don't know that I would follow it as a model.
Assuming that online achievements are a catalyst to increase multiplayer activity, why not just make the achievements focus more on kill counts, game variations, and things of that ilk? You take out the weapon specific kills and suddenly people aren't grabbing the weapon that they need ... they are grabbing the weapon that they want.
Or leave them in and shut up about it. The systems they are proposing sound convoluted. I understand what they are trying to do; it just seems like an unnecessary way to do it.
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