Xbox 360 Fanboy

Good, at least Microsoft is focusing on the most important thing, and that is GAMES. Movies are cool too, but not needed when there's bad ass games out for 360.

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That is a logical explaination, and the 360 HD-DVD hybrid system would be 3rd party anyway, if it is released.

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I bet you that in 1 or 2 years, this will change and they'll HAVE to integrate HD games somehow. Only so much the current Hardware can output!

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Of course, Microsoft said similar things about HDMI.

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My guess is that the xbox 360 will become a platform that other companies will add features too such as a HD-DVD drive (Toshiba) or an media extender package with pc like features (HP) or DVR/IPTV functions (AT&T). So Micorsoft will just sit back and finally let another company worry about hardware quality.

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@ Morgon

Exactly.. Most of the time when MS denies something, it turns out to be true and usually announced soon after... Usually.

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MS never said "No HDMI on the 360." What they said was they would update the console if gamers wanted the features or the market looked like it wanted it. Well, the people spoke, and MS responded. It helped that tossing HDMI in didn't add to the cost of the console either. But putting an HD-DVD drive in would most definitely run up the cost, and the moment it's in there, some game company will ask if they can put a game on an HD-DVD disc instead of DVD.

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As a ps3 gamer, i object to the idea that all we are using the system for is bluray movies.

I'm using mine as a ps2. or I would, if it could play any ps2 game worth a damn. I'm using mine as a Ps1 i guess.

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Oh, c'mon Microsoft. You know you want to!

What? No means no?

Are you suuuure?

I mean, look at the way you're presenting yourself, your HDVD drive sticking out like that... you're just begging for someone to integrate you!

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Good thing that Microsoft feels that consoles are used for games, and not for movies. Maybe this means that we'll unclutter the live marketplace by getting rid of all the movies...

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@10 dont know if I should admit your comment was original being its over NOT PC-ness. :)

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c43vman - But putting Movies for download on Live doesn't increase the cost of the console by putting in a video playback method that could be obsolete. If I had more time to watch movies and TV, I'd be all over downloading Live movies. No trip to Blockbuster or waiting for the movie to be shipped by Netflix.

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I don't get why people assume that Microsoft has to do something just because one of their competitors did. Maybe there is a good reason why they didn't. Like price.

I can download HD movies at my convenience and I have spent a fraction of what I would have spent on a high-def drive. Downloading movies is the sweet spot right now and this format war is going to die away. Microsoft is EXACTLY where they need to be and Sony is developing on their draconian concept of generating value though feature overload.

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he makes some very good points.

can't help but agree with the guy.

would an integrated HD-DVD drive be nice with the 360? yes. but i would honestly prefer that they focus on games, games, games.

if they lowered the price on the add on drive, or maybe developed a low cost integrated model later on, that'd be cool too.

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The price of the Toshiba player has already broken the $100 barrier so these drives appear to be getting cheaper by the day; thus, it's not inconceivable that MS may eventually integrate the drive. They are smart to wait until it becomes more of a commodity.

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Since the inception of DVD's I have never owned a stand alone player. I had a Gateway Destination system with the first PC-DVD out, which I used until I got my Xbox. My 360 has been my DVD player of choice and yesterday it became my HD-DVD player of choice.

I don't know where that comment is coming from, no one uses the system for movies.
I'm a minimalist if I can have one machine do it all ie: the 360 then that's what is best for me.

On the other hand trumpeting your system as a movie player can do a bit to distract the sole focus of gaming and the edge to the living room. So maybe MS has a good grasp on things afterall.

I do have to say I've never owned a component CD player either, that started with the Sega Saturn. My MP3 player usage has gone done quite a bit as well thanks to Media Center and Media Connect on the 360. Hell, with Media Center and XM I don't even listen to FM or AM at home. The little white box is a gem, and I'd hate to part with it!

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How does MS concentrating on an internal HD drive take away from concentration on games? Its totally seperate departments right? I mean I don't think they would have developers working on this venture would they? It only helps the gamer, as well as the longevity of the system. DVD-9 space will become an issue this generation. I bet if HD-DVD was killing Blu-Ray, they'd be all over this idea. I say put the new SKU out in limited quantities and see how it does. You never know, it could be a hit. The SHOULD have done this with the (snickers) "Elite" 360. It makes more sense than HDMI. At least I can see the benefit of an internal HD drive TODAY.

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What a douche bag...

PS3 sales are at the same pace as 360 in the first year. Their exactly the same.

http://www.techvat.com/orange-box-takes-the-lead.html

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Microsoft is going about it the right way, which is not to focus on an intergrated HD-DVD player at this point. MS has been the best at providing what most consumers want and expect from a console which is gaming first and extras second. As for HD content, HD movies are available via download and are increasing in availability by the month. So the need for an intergrated HD drive is not necessary at this point. Now being that this console is a next-gen console that has tremendous power that has not reached its full potential, it is a no-brainer that developers will be creating games that will require more disc storage such as Mass Effect although scaled down to fit the DVD-9 format. After Mass Effect most developers will be creating games with larger content and an integrated HD drive will be inevitable and Microsoft knows that... that will be at least another year to two years from now and by that time the cost will be much lower to intergrate a HD drive and consumers who already own a 360 can always sell their current 360 by that time and upgrade or maybe MS will offer an upgrade at a low price which would be great.. either way the consumer wins and is never forced to buy an overprice console with a drive that has format that is not being exclusively used.

@FrankthCrank:

I don't know about those stats but even if PS3 sales are on par with the 360... there is nothing a true gamer enthusiasts has to benefit by buying a PS3... there is absolutely no must have game out there for the PS3... the 360 is killing PS3 and Wii for games purchased at a console to game ratio. 360 has so many great exclusives already out and due to come out. Those sales for the PS3 are by mostly loyalists sitting and waiting for a good game to come their way... the PS3 truly is an overpriced game console that is not doing well at all... who as a gamer in their right mind would buy a PS3?? what would you be playing that is worth paying all that money for a format that is not even being used at this time.. Sony does not know how to market or strategize toward the future... they screwed up totally with the PS3 (even the PS2)... teh PS2 was successfull only because of its predecesser but it was no where near as good as the Xbox in power, ease of software coding, or features... let's not even begin with online gaming... something Sony is ridiculously and so embarassingly far behind in. How freaking ridiculous does a "next-gen" console look and it does not have a viable worthy online system to compete with such as Xbox Live. Get real there is absolutely no real reason to waste money on a PS3 and that's a fact. Unless you enjoy waiting for movies to come out on Blue-Ray disc.. that is it.

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