WalletPop: Hack your wallet

Molyneux says Live "more impactful" than Wii remote

In a recent interview, Peter Molyneux stated that he believed Xbox Live will be "far more impactful" to video gaming than the Wii remote in the long term. As Xbox 360 Fanboys, we can certainly understand his sentiments, though current sales numbers might suggest otherwise. Still, it raises an interesting question. Both the Wii remote and Xbox Live have changed console gaming as we know it. Sure, there have been motion controls before, and there have been online games on consoles, but the Wii remote and Xbox Live represent the most successful iterations of both concepts. The question then is which will have the most impact on the industry, input or networking? Motion controls may bring more gamers into the fold with intuitive input, but networking brings those gamers together with online play and downloadable goodies.

Our instinct tells us the end result will be combining the two (Xbox ThWii-Sixty?) but, for the sake of discussion, why not share your thoughts on the importance of motion controls versus social networking in gaming.

[Via Joystiq]

Related Headlines

Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)


9-06-2007 @ 3:47PM

Jon said...

Live is the most long-term impacting, and it was done first. In the long run, the internet is NOW, and we're seeing Live being implemented into different products - Live Messenger, Windows Live, having the ability to chat with friends from your xbox, while they are in class - video chat, etc.

Also theres the marketplace aspect. Renting movies and tv shows isn't new, doing so over the internet isn't new, doing both onto a CONSOLE is monumental. Xbox live reaches into the same market group which feeds the mega-movie conglomerate machine.

I don't see motion sensing controllers doing the same thing. This is old technology, and sure I give Nintendo props for actually making it work and making it popular, very popular. But this isn't ground breaking. I doubt SERIOUS gamers will ever want to drop their controllers. So if they technology continues it will be as an option, not the main platform. Xbox is marketing a NEXT-gen console, not old technology with new perks.


2 starsvote downvote upReport
Neon Jebus2

9-06-2007 @ 4:00PM

Neon Jebus said...

With the heavy focus Molyneux is stressing about feelings and emotions I have no doubt he would think this. The Wii is great at gatherings with people you already know but XBLive connects you to people across the globe.

So you can kill them, teabag them, then call them 'teh ghey'.

Try doing that while playing WiiSports with your grandma and see what happens.


2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 4:02PM

TORO said...

I tawt I taw Rich wyting like Tweety.

Anyways I agree with you Jon, the Marketplace is only going to get bigger. M$ did their hw, look how much revenue they've been generating. I don't see Nintendo making partnership with Disney, Fox, Comedy Central, etc. I think motion sensing will be used by some developers eventually, but not the norm.


2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 4:02PM

gotee12 said...

As an owner of both a 360 and Wii, I gotta say that IMO they're both hitting on the future of gaming. Nintendo hasn't really shown a thing as far as their online offering is concerned, while MS has set the standard to beat with Live. At the same time, I've spent over 20 years of my life (dang that makes me feel old) gaming, and I've never had as much fun gaming as I've had waving my arms like a madman on the Wii. Metroid Prime 3's controls really do breathe an insane amount of fresh air into the FPS genre.

I love the graphics on my 360. And games like Bioshock and Forza 2 are amazing in 1080, but I didn't have as much "fun" playing Bioshock as I did Metroid. The Wii's controller (when implemented correctly by devs) makes games fun again for me.

Graphics are great, but they're not everything. Xbox Live is great, but it's not everything. Waggle controls are great, but... well you get the idea. The next, next gen consoles hopefully will have a combination of all of the great ideas from this current gen.

I for one, welcome our future ThWiiSixty Overlords...


2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 4:03PM

CongoZombie said...

I'm far too lazy to play the Wii :p It makes my arms ache anyway. Ever tried to play Red Steel? Talk about using the controller for the sake of it...


2 starsvote downvote upReport
Iliad Force6

9-06-2007 @ 4:18PM

Iliad Force said...

I think Molyneux is right (even though he's on the MS payroll). The Wii was a ballsy move on Nintendo's part, and it's obviously paid off. But I'm not convinced of the system's long-term viability, nor am I convinced that motion control is the wave of the future. Sure, motion control is fun, there's no denying that. But is it the best way to play a game like Bioshock? Or Command & Conquer? Halo Wars? Mass Effect? I don't think so. Rather, I suspect motion control to have its best days in titles like WiiSports, but to seem a bit forced when applied to titles that require more precision than the nunchuk has to offer.

It's not that Xbox Live is all that revolutionary--after all, PC gamers have enjoyed networked gameplay for years. But MS pulled it off with remarkable aplomb. They've built a surprisingly vibrant, organic, and responsive community--and all from the ground up. I just hope MS doesn't exploit it by overcharging--something I fear may already be happening.


2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 4:23PM

DjDATZ said...

I will not put down my controller. I've been offered to play the Wii before and I didn't even want to pick up the Wiimote from how amateur the gaming on it looked. I've played all of the friends that were there and loved the Wii in Halo 2, which they professed they were amazing at, and which I think I'm quite shit at...and I still wooped their asses. There's just something to haveing a real controller that I can let go of. Imagine playing Forza 2 with a Wiimote...yea fuckin right. I'll stick to my design-award-winning Xbox 360 controller. (Everytime I pick it up, it just FEELS as if it WANTS to be in your hands.)


2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 4:25PM

DjDATZ said...

And I do think that XBL is LIGHT years ahead of the Wiimote in terms of the impact it has caused.

Oh yea, and PSN hasn't even been mentioned. I wonder why...


2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 4:44PM

Josh said...

Xbox Live is the only reason I still play video games.


2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 4:56PM

Loban said...

DjDATZ, while I do agree the Xbox 360 controller is the best traditional controller I've ever used, it's obvious you've never used the Wiimote. It's extremely comfortable, very precise, and of very high quality. Try playing some RE4 or Metroid with it and you'll never want to use a traditional controller on a console FPS again. It's not intended for simulation racing games (like forza), but it's perfect for arcade racers (like excitetruck or mario kart).

As for playing Forza, if you're going to talk the ultimate controller for a racing sim, you may as well disregard anything but a force feedback wheel, shift knob, and pedals. The 360 controller is a joke compared to that setup.

Noone said the wiimote was perfect, but for what it's meant for, it's a beautiful piece of technology, just like the 360 controller.

As for Live, I personally don't have time to play online with my two kids taking up all my time these days, but I don't think it's fair to directly compare the Wiimote and Live. Live is largely based on software and therefore can be quickly and easily upgraded and improved. The next true iteration of motion controller will come in the form of the controller for the Wii2 I'm sure, so we'll just have to wait until then to see another revolution from Nintendo, which I'm sure Sony will again copy.

All that being said, I love my Wii60 setup and anyone who bashes either console is obviously ignorant of each of their strengths and intended purpose.


2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 4:59PM

Loban said...

While I love my 360, I disagree that Live has caused much of an impact outside of those that have 360s. PC gamers have been gaming online for years with free messaging, voicechat, etc. Live did do a great job of bringing all that to the console world and making it seemless and intuitive. However, those outside of gaming have never heard of Live, but my grandma knows what a Wiimote is. What does that tell you?


2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 6:04PM

Corey said...

Apples to oranges.


2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 6:06PM

Lucky said...

To bad live is invisable to the average or uninformed shopper.


2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 6:28PM

Etchasketchist said...

Xbox Live is a way bigger deal than the Wiimote. That's not to dis the Wiimote. It's just that you can't compare an input-device with an entire network. A Wii-mote is made of plastic. Xbox Live is people. It's made out of PEOPLE! People > plastic.


2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 6:36PM

Jon said...



2 starsvote downvote upReport

9-06-2007 @ 7:51PM

Ant said...

"XBox-ThWii Sixty?" BOOOOOOOO!!!!! Not even mildly punny.


2 starsvote downvote upReport
Mike show!17

9-06-2007 @ 8:42PM

Mike show! said...

implanting both these systems together is hard and will likely fail

see: PS3


2 starsvote downvote upReport
Mike show!18

9-06-2007 @ 8:43PM

Mike show! said...

...implementing **


2 starsvote downvote upReport
Mike show!19

9-06-2007 @ 8:44PM

Mike show! said...



2 starsvote downvote upReport
Jonah Falcon20

9-07-2007 @ 3:00AM

Jonah Falcon said...

A new life awaits you in the Off-World colonies. The chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure. Use your new friend as a personal body servant or a tireless field hand - the custom tailored genetically engineered humanoid replicant designed especially for your needs. So come on America, lets put our team up there...


2 starsvote downvote upReport
Check out all our Halo 3 beta news coverage
Cheats (9)
Console wars (220)
Contests and Giveaways (83)
Deals and Bargains (112)
Downloads (167)
E3 (86)
Fan stuff (790)
Game announcements (82)
Hacks / mods (142)
HD-DVD Releases (57)
How-tos (44)
Interviews (94)
MMO (7)
Multiplayer (101)
News (4872)
Peripherals (223)
Podcasts (54)
Polls (14)
Reviews (44)
Rumors (186)
Shipping this week (38)
Video Marketplace (39)
Videos (203)
Walkthroughs (3)
What are you playing? (52)
WMC (20)
Xbox Live (664)
Xbox Live Arcade (629)
Xbox Live Marketplace (713)
Amped 3 (6)
Assassin's Creed (37)
BioShock (81)
Burnout Revenge (8)
Call of Duty 2 (20)
Call of Duty 3 (10)
Command and Conquer 3 (25)
Condemned (15)
Crackdown (65)
Dead or Alive 4 (22)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (49)
Fable 2 (27)
FIFA Soccer 06 (5)
Fight Night Round 3 (5)
Final Fantasy XI (12)
Frame City Killer (2)
Full Auto (6)
Fuzion Frenzy 2 (9)
Gears of War (239)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter (32)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 (29)
Guitar Hero II (64)
GUN (4)
Halo 3 (599)
Kameo (14)
King Kong (8)
Lost Planet (29)
Madden NFL 06 (5)
Mass Effect (51)
NBA 2K6 (4)
NBA Live 06 (4)
Need For Speed Most Wanted (4)
NHL 2K6 (2)
Perfect Dark (18)
Project Gotham Racing 3 (24)
Quake 4 (6)
R* Games Presents: Table Tennis (9)
Ridge Racer 6 (7)
Rumble Roses XX (0)
Saints Row (10)
Splinter Cell: Double Agent (19)
Street Trace (7)
The Darkness (22)
The Godfather (2)
The Outfit (4)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06 (3)
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (4)
Too Human (21)
Top Spin 2 (5)
Viva Pinata (27)
GDC '07 Coverage
GDC '07 (33)



Powered by Blogsmith

Worth reading

  • 360 Arcadians
  • 360Sync
  • Achieve360Points
  • Gamerscore Blog
  • Gamertag Radio
  • GameTrailers 360
  • Halo.Bungie.Org
  • Major Nelson
  • Planet Xbox 360
  • TeamXbox
  • Unscripted 360
  • XBLArcade
  • Xbox 360 Achievements
  • Xbox Domain
  • Xbox-Scene
  • Xboxyde
  • Xboxygen (French)

Featured Galleries

Poker Smash (XBLA)
Tron (XBLA)
Rez (XBLA)
Lode Runner (XBLA)
Far Cry 2 (PC)
Omega Five (XBLA)
Metal Slug 3 (XBLA)
Arkadian Warriors (XBLA)
Shred Nebula (XBLA)


Most Commented On (14 days)

Recent Comments

Worth reading

  • 360 Arcadians
  • 360Sync
  • Achieve360Points
  • Gamerscore Blog
  • Gamertag Radio
  • GameTrailers 360
  • Halo.Bungie.Org
  • Major Nelson
  • Planet Xbox 360
  • TeamXbox
  • Unscripted 360
  • XBLArcade
  • Xbox 360 Achievements
  • Xbox Domain
  • Xbox-Scene
  • Xboxyde
  • Xboxygen (French)

Weblogs, Inc. Network

  • Autos
    • Autoblog
    • AutoblogGreen
    • Autoblog Spanish
    • Autoblog Chinese
    • Autoblog Simplified Chinese
  • Technology
    • Download Squad
    • Engadget
    • Engadget HD
    • Engadget Mobile
    • Engadget Chinese
    • Engadget Simplified Chinese
    • Engadget Japanese
    • Engadget Spanish
    • TUAW (Apple)
  • Lifestyle
    • AisleDash
    • DIY Life
    • Gadling
    • Green Daily
    • Luxist
    • ParentDish
    • Slashfood
    • Styledash
    • That's Fit
  • Gaming
    • Joystiq
    • DS Fanboy
    • Massively
    • Nintendo Wii Fanboy
    • PS3 Fanboy
    • PSP Fanboy
    • Second Life Insider
    • WoW Insider
    • Xbox 360 Fanboy
  • Entertainment
    • Cinematical
    • TV Squad
  • Finance
    • BloggingBuyouts
    • BloggingStocks
    • WalletPop
  • Also on AOL
    • African-American Culture
    • Autos
    • Games
    • Maps
    • Money
    • Movies
    • Music
    • News
    • Sports
    • Switched
    • Television
    • Travel

Other Weblogs Inc. Network blogs you might be interested in:

PS3 Fanboy
  • PlayTV DVR gets priced, dated
  • PS3 Poll Police: Reactions to Resistance 2?
  • New Viking: Battle for Asgard screens make us say, 'hmm'
  • Worldwide PS3 releases for the week of January 13th
  • Blu-ray movie releases for the week of Jan. 13
Subscribe with My AOL, MyYahoo or Bloglines
WOW Insider
  • Last Week on Massively: WoW-related stories
  • All the World's a Stage: If looks could kill
  • WoW Moviewatch: How to Boobadin - Epixs Mount
  • Around Azeroth: In over her head
  • Sunday Morning Funnies: No heals
Subscribe with My AOL, MyYahoo or Bloglines
PSP Fanboy
  • Worldwide PSP releases for the week of Jan. 13
  • New video featured on Coded Soul website
  • PSP Fanboy Theatre: Volume 46
  • PS Fanboy Wallpapers: Volume 16
  • Gamestop cancels Gran Turismo pre-orders
Subscribe with My AOL, MyYahoo or Bloglines
  • Soul Calibur IV creator gives details on game, justifies Vader
  • XBLA Goldeneye confirmed, also canceled
  • Rumor: Sam & Max coming to the Wii according to German press release
  • Don't even trip, Financial Times -- Paramount is sticking with HD-DVD
  • PS Fanboy Week in Review: 1/6 - 1/13
Subscribe with My AOL, MyYahoo or Bloglines
Engadget Mobile
  • Gates: Microsoft isn't going head-to-head with the iPhone
  • iPhoneCam streams video from your iPhone over WiFi
  • Firm shows off functional Android build on ancient HTC hardware
  • Alltel expands My Circle with 5, 20 person offerings
  • Samsung Access, AT&T's other MediaFLO launch phone
Subscribe with My AOL, MyYahoo or Bloglines
Autoblog Green
  • Wagoner: Our nation has a "woefully low number of E-85 pumps"
  • Detroit 2008: Johnson Controls shows off its lithium-ion battery technology
  • Detroit 2008: Mercedes Vision GLK Freeside live reveal
  • Detroit 2008: Chrysler will introduce a Dodge Ram hybrid in 2010
  • Lutz says new CAFE standards will increase car price by $6k
Subscribe with My AOL, MyYahoo or Bloglines
  • Intempo reveals kinda sexy Daisy portable internet radio
  • Poll: How do you want us to write the Jobsnote? Top to bottom, or vice versa?
  • iPhoneCam streams video from your iPhone over WiFi
  • Firm shows off functional Android build on ancient HTC hardware
  • Rock Band Stage Kit with lights, smoke leaked by GameStop
Subscribe with My AOL, MyYahoo or Bloglines
The Unofficial Apple Weblog (TUAW)
  • Wired offers up Macworld predictions
  • No "iPod tax" for Canada
  • Call for Pictures: iPhone demos at Macworld
  • Macworld Exhibitor tip: disable the IR port on your Macs
  • New Get a Mac ad: Time Machine
Subscribe with My AOL, MyYahoo or Bloglines
  • Detroit 2008: Lamborghini adds personal touch with Ad Personam program
  • F1 engine ban reduced to 5 years, new formula expected within 2
  • Detroit 2008: '09 Subaru Forester shows its US face in Detroit
  • Detroit 2008: BMW announces pricing for BMW 1 Series Convertible
  • Detroit 2008: Road and Travel names 2008 International Car Of The Year winners
Subscribe with My AOL, MyYahoo or Bloglines
  • Don't let that liquid contraband go to waste
  • How to visit the locations of last year's most "travel inspiring" films
  • The NY Times Travel Show takes off Feb.29
  • Photo of the Day 1-13-08
  • Stranded travelers riot at Argentine airport
Subscribe with My AOL, MyYahoo or Bloglines
Engadget HD
  • HDTV Listings for January 13, 2008
  • CyberLink's Profile 1.1-enabled PowerDVD shown at CES
  • CES 2008: The best and worst of HD
  • Poll: What was your favorite HD product / technology from CES 2008?
  • Real Time with Bill Maher goes HD on HBO
Subscribe with My AOL, MyYahoo or Bloglines
Download Squad
  • Flipping the Linux switch: Text editors for new users
  • globalPandora - Pandora for the rest of us
  • Valo - mouse clicking time waster
  • Original SimCity source code released under GPL
  • Download the latest version of Windows Vista SP1
Subscribe with My AOL, MyYahoo or Bloglines