
When asked his opinion on how black Gears of War character Cole Train is portrayed in the game, Gray responded by saying "Cole Train is basically like every other effin' black character in a video game. Like here comes the urban stereotype. Where is this 1990's - not even 2000 - black slang, where does this fit in this futuristic world that doesn't even take place on Earth? They go really far to do a lot of fictional justifications for this culture that they've built, and they go right back to this urban stereotype for the black character." Gray went on to say that a character like Cole Train, "all it does is reinforce dumb stereotypes and it sort of reinforces casual racism." Yes sir, this is one loaded and passionately argued topic indeed ...










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4-10-2008 @ 10:23AM
heavensent said...
lmfao. cole train is hilarious.
i wouldn't want him any other way.
ffs.
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4-10-2008 @ 11:26AM
rv said...
He really is racist if you think about it, though
4-10-2008 @ 1:22PM
Peacefuloutrage said...
I liked Cole Train. People aren't reading the original article. I think the issue is not "Cole Train", but so many characters are similar big, dumb, atheletic stereotypes.
There isn't much to balance Cole Train out.
He was making the argument that Cole Train by himself was fine, but when most characters are like Cole Train or thugs, pimps, rappers, or atheletes, there isn't any diversity in black characters.
4-12-2008 @ 2:34PM
Platinum_Skeet said...
I'm black and Cole was my favorite character in the game...
4-14-2008 @ 11:41AM
gtpunch said...
Who isn't big, dumb, and athletic in GoW?
4-15-2008 @ 5:05PM
Nathaniel said...
"Look at all that JUICE!" -The one and only...Cole Train. You know, last time I checked, The Train did not mention having illegitimate children, being unemployed, and a dedication to taking down the white man. Now THAT would be racist and uncalled for, attaching him to negative stereotypes of African-Americans. Instead, he was a famous professional athlete, who now is doing his job (and a damn good one at that) to save his planet. Racist? I don't think so.
Besides, video games in general are FULL of stereotypes and cookie-cutter characters, why pick on The Train, and what was actually a good game? -Beat it for the first time yesterday :)-
4-10-2008 @ 10:23AM
Zoot Suit Jedi said...
So it doesn't matter that he was one of the heroes in the game? Because he doesn't talk pretty we're to criticize Epic? I'll be sure to climb atop my soapbox the next time I see a bumbling thin white dude in a lab coat with glasses.
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4-10-2008 @ 12:44PM
mike said...
I agree, but what we have to realize is our media is stereo typical period. No matter where you turn there's stereo types everywhere.
Mexicans robbin places or cant speak english, Black people super big and athletic having a different way of verbally expressing themselves, asians being quick agile, advanced knowledge in martial arts, bad drivers, Women being bad drivers, overly emotional, white people, skaters, rockers, weak, not street smart, can't jump, stupid etc.
It's everywhere so why target one game. I'd say the game industry is just the target in general.
I'd say the movie and tv industry is more stereo typically racist than video games in general.
And I am a male, that's half black and korean and I am not the stereotypical black or asian.
4-10-2008 @ 10:26AM
TyR1N said...
I'm not a raciest man, i never have been. but i'd agree that Cole is a perfect example of most "ghetto" African Americans; Loud, obnoxious and annoying. I live twenty minutes from Detroit, I'd love for anyone to question my opinion lol
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4-10-2008 @ 11:17AM
J said...
Maybe you are not a "raciest", but you are indeed a racist.
4-10-2008 @ 11:44AM
meinnit said...
...and your opinion is based on the fact you live 20 mins out of detroit? Let me paraphrase your ignorance... "im not racist, i just think that most ghetto african americans are loud, obnoxious and annoying". I question your opinion... your racist pig-head dont make sense!!!
4-10-2008 @ 12:50PM
Bucfann said...
Why is it when the truth is spoken, they are labeled a racist. Facts are facts. Ghetto blacks ARE loud and obnoxious. What part of that isnt true?
Why dont Gary get on the hippity hop world? They are loud and flamboyant. They help shape the way people perceive hip hoppers and blacks.
Its common sense, NOT ALL people of a certain color act like the majority of them. But the fact is, a majority of blacks that you run into or a lot of the ones that are put into the spot light, act a certain way. Its just the truth.
And atleast Cole isnt smoking crack or acting like a hoodlum. His character in the game, actually makes him very likeable. He is a little loud but seems like a fun guy.
If someone has a problem with how the people of their colored are viewed as a majority, then why dont you complain about the majority who GET the spotlight in this country and act a certain way, or preach/sing/hiphop a certain way.
Dont go after a video game company for creating a game character slightly based on blacks who are in and out of the spot light in our day and age.
4-10-2008 @ 1:17PM
wraith808 said...
Because it's a generalization. And I assume you know what the point is with generalizations. True, there are some people from the ghetto- black, white, hispanic, asian, mixed- who fit the stereotype. But not all, and that's the point. Why does the character have to fit the stereotype? The media is what causes the problem- putting these people up on platforms as the example, when they are not what we should strive to.
4-10-2008 @ 10:26AM
braincake said...
hard to call it stereotypical when the majority of blacks sound exactly like him or worse. anyone watch mtv lately?
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4-10-2008 @ 10:35AM
DiscoGhost said...
Wow...that was ignorant.
I don't know what Mr. Gray's talking about though. Did Cole talk like an idiot in the game or something? I didn't notice if he did or didn't. May I was too taken by the voice actor being the same guy who played Terry Tate - office linebacker, "YOU FINISH THE JOE, YOU MAKE SOME MO!". But i guess those commercials were prolly also stereotypical (if so I blame Terry Tate).
4-10-2008 @ 12:12PM
B1gg Randall said...
See now thats racists...What If I say All white people hurt them self repeatly....(Scared)And all white people are spoil lil brats(Sweet Sixteen)...Would I be wrong...Hell yes I would cause all those statements are wrong...And not all white people do things like that....Dumb Ass
4-10-2008 @ 10:29AM
Dr Other said...
Yeah, THIS post wasn't flame bait.
Lordy. Unfortunately 'loaded and passionately argued topics' tend to only bring out the worst in people, as it seems to be doing in the comment section here already.
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4-10-2008 @ 10:32AM
Hockle said...
I'll simplify this argument - all of the dialogue in Gears of War is horrible.
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4-10-2008 @ 10:33AM
andyg8180 said...
everything is racist...
xbox360fanboy is racist because the center of the page is white... WHY IS IT WHITE??? YOU ARE RACIST 360FANBOY!!!
see? I can do it too... Let's complain that sonic is blue... And he totally acts like a hedgehog... Oh, how come Mario hasnt been singled out because he'sa italiano and totally acts like an italiano??
Ummm, Cole's voice is done by a black guy... and ummmm cole is a football player... and ummm, how is it racist again? im confused...
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4-10-2008 @ 12:13PM
edward camp said...
yeah the pages should be black with white letters
black power