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I would agree with the statements made by the N+ creators. Where are all the indie games? I'm tired of seeing emulated ports of old arcade games.

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What Microsoft needs to do is release that size limit.
Then the game will start to roll in. Plus, how can you have a service like xbox originals, with sizes of 3-5 gigs and your arcade limit is less than a fraction. That is nonsense.

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Don't care to much for XBLA games anyway.

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I would agree. The majority of the xbla titles are in fact sh*t.

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90% of all XBLA games are horrible. I absolutely agree with them.

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I'm not sure why these guys are complaining, most people had never heard of N+ until the game hit XBLA (I know I hadn't).

Sounds like biting the hand that feeds you, to quote NIN of Rock Band fame. Not that I disagree with any of it, but it seems strange hearing it come from these two.

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You release a platformer that looks straight out of 1997 and charge 800 points for it... then blame XBLA.

Laff.

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While I agree that there is tons of shovelware on XBLA, I don't understand why they are bitching. I could understand it if their game had bombed but it has consistently been on top of the XBLA sales charts with sales of over 70,000 copies so far.

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I just don't understand this notion that there are lot of bad games on Arcade. I see a lot of good games out there that a lot of people are enjoying. I think they are doing great job of bringing out old school classics, that a lot of people want, and newer games.

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@ Mat

If you read the story you would know that they weren't complaining about N+'s sales. They were just saying that there are a lot of sh*tty games on XBLA.

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I want Ether Vapor and more support from SNK games like Samuri Showdown, Magician Lord or the King of Fighters series.
And it would be nice if some classic Turbo Graffix 16 games appeared as well.

Most of these things are available on the Wii for download already so whats up MS?

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These must be the quotes that Nintendo used for their WiiWare service.

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I agree with them I just find it ironic they are bitching about it. N+ wasn't horrible but I would never spend anymore then maybe .5 cents on it. It would mean more if a company whose actually made a kick ass game would bitch.

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Welcome to America. There's shitty shit everywhere. Shit on TV, shit at the supermarket, shit clothes in the mall, shit movies in the theaters, shit songs on the radio, shit websites on the internet. Somehow we've all learned to survive.

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Reading this article, I agree with some of what they say. Yes, XBLA has lots of retro games, but clearly its working because people are buying them in droves. It also has some great new and fun games, like N+, Alien Hominid, Assault Heroes, Small Arms, and Bomberman LIVE! There is always room for more creative and independent games, and I think the XBLA will fully showcase that when the XNA stuff launches this fall.

But, reading the interview, it seems like these questions and answers are dated. This interview reads like it happened before or shortly after the launch of N+. Since its launch on XBLA, the game has done extremely well, consistently placing first in the Arcade Top 10 according to Major Nelson, and that list is compiled based on how many of that game was PURCHASED that week, not played. Purchased. So, some of them lamenting that fact that it won't stand out are sorely mistaken. It's a helluva game, the co-op is insane, and you can create your own levels. Now, complaining about MS not letting them have a free market for created content is valid, but most of their comments and answers seem childish and jealous, really.

N+ is a fun game, and I hope they add to it down the line, but its a shame to see them blast a company that has brought them a wider audience and a nice profit (considering the game's free over the internet...)

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First of all, I couldn't agree more with that article. It's depressing to see crap like Boogie Bunnies and Bliss Island get put on xbla when there are hundrends if not thousands of great games out there that deserve a shot. I know it's not all MS fault, developers have to want to make or port their games to the service. But just thinking how special and how much fun XBLA games can be, it get's sad when week after week is wasted for shit that we all know nobody wants and nobody has asked for. Quick poll? How many of you would of loved to have the original Wing Commander on XBLA? Like, uh, all of us. But we get WC: Arena instead. That pretty much sums up my argument.

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Yeah, I don't know about this. I don't buy every game that comes out, but I probably buy once a month, maybe every 6 weeks. Sometimes I like a retro title, sometimes something new. Since the trial games ususally do a pretty good job showcasing a game, I would think that the sales are a pretty good indicator of how good or bad games are. (ie. if it's a bad game, people will figure that out during the trial and not buy it.)

From the charts I've seen, sales on XBLA seem pretty good, thus indicating that even if a few people think that "90% is sh*t", clearly everyone doesn't agree.

I'm not an indie developer, so I can't really speak with any authority about them being pushed out in favor of larger developers, but as a gamer and shopper on XBLA, I'm pretty happy with the games that are available today, and continue to come out.

I'm also a big fan of N+. Kick-ass game. I'm looking forward to the DLC.

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The problem is that there are clearly people who WANT these retro ports. Should they be denied that? I personally don't think so.

Arguably 90% of games in general are crap to some group of people, so I don't know. I can't disagree that there is crap on XBLA, but there is also enough good stuff that I think it's worthwhile. It definitely needs to improve and MS has to ease up, but as mentioned the community games thing could help rectify that issue.

XBLA is the only content system on consoles right now where a relatively new or updated game is released on (almost entirely) a weekly basis. There's just no way most of it is going to be amazing.

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Why does everyone jump to conclusions?

Does anybody even know what good indy games were turned down? Didn't think so...

And I would say there are many good games on XBLA, the more games the better. Rez HD, Puzzle Quest, Bomberman Live, Lumines Live, Geometry Wars, Street Fighter II, Castlevanie: SOTN, Doom, Marathon, N+, Pac-Man CE, well the list just keeps going obviously.

I don't care how many crap games get released, that isn't Microsoft's job to stop them, I would only be a little angry if there were several very good games that were turned down for bad reasons. But nobody knows that is the case.

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