Xbox 360 Fanboy

There's people out there with two?

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That is pretty cheap of M$. Yet another way they screw us over. I bet there has to be a way around it though.

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None of this sounds surprising whatsoever, and all of it makes perfect sense. In plans to swap out your 20 for the 120, you dump your info from the old to the new, and leave it at that.

if people have two 20 GB 360's odds are that each would have purchased or downloaded his or her chosen content to begin with, and 'transferring' that info from one 20 to another is piracy I'd have to believe..isn't it? Two accounts for Live, two Microsoft Points accounts..things like that. Nobody gets stuff for free!

One thing is for sure: come this Holiday season if you've purchased a Core console, be looking for a cheap used 20GB HDD to upgrade from your memory units!

(In a way, this whole Elite BS may perhaps put more 360's with HDs in homes than ever before.)

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this is crap. I'm not buying this crap, then I'll have a 20GB PAPER WEIGHT. MS is giving people the screw job. It would be nice to be able to use one as a external HD and make it so you have 140 GB with both. Thats alot of money to have a damn paper weight for a HD.

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I have a question: when I had to return my 360 for repair, I got a different one back and now my profile is the only one that can play the games I've purchased in full mode. Is there any workaround for this?

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Im passing on both this and the Elite xbox. 180 bucks for 120GB Harddrive whose only use is to store Xbox Live arcade games, Movies I BUY off Live and demos that I download before I Buy more games. I think MS should have taken a hit or something on the HD since its only use it to have more space to buy more Live stuff.

Pass for me

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"I have a question: when I had to return my 360 for repair, I got a different one back and now my profile is the only one that can play the games I've purchased in full mode. Is there any workaround for this?"

Yes. Complain to customer service, and they will give you enough MS points to re-buy all of your stuff.

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meh, no big deal. i have no need for 120Gb. when the price of the 20Gb drops or when people go to trade theirs in, i'll pick it up on the cheap. use one for xbl arcade games and demos and one for game saves and trailers. 120 is only gonna be good for tv shows and movies, of which i have no need for.

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@ Drdre74,

Believe it or not you could trade it in or you could sell it on eBay for cash money. If you get stuck with a 20gb paper weight, then it's your own fault.

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i agree with Toph. these restrictions make sense.

in terms of end user complexity, having the ability to transfer from a 120gb to a 20gb would be hell with users being asked to specify which files to copy and which ones not to with error messages saying there isn't enough space. and then trying to merge multiple hard drives into a single one would have all these questions of overwrite and priority.

i guess it does suck if you have a lot of content split between two 20gb hard drives (for example, in the case of someone who's actively using video marketplace) but at least you're able to redownload it again (hassle? yes. end of the world? no) since it's linked to the gamertag.

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I was ready to take a small $$ hit and sell my current 360 setup and get this one.. But after finding out it doesn't have the newer & smaller CPU nor Quieter DVD drive, I think I'm going to have to pass on it. I could just buy the 120GB HDD and spend a few bucks on a black skin for it.

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This is the most ridiculous thing M$ could do about the 120GB HD.

Stupid, stupid and stupid. Period.

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I would guess that MS will say that the restrictions are necessary to prevent friends from sharing bootleg copies of video marketplace files. Plus, I think that Panello already said MS needs to have a "closed system" so that content providers will be willing to put stuff on marketplace. I haven't decided whether I think that's B.S. just yet.

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The absolute worst of these is that it overwrites the 120. The press release stated it will come preloaded with content. WTF is the point of that when you'll have to overwrite it pretty much as soon as you open the box? WTG MS... Not to mention $180 is simply too much money. It should have been $150, at most. I really want a larger hard drive, but I'm seriously reconsidering that after the price point reveal. Bad move all around. Not to mention that this should have been released 5 months ago when video marketplace first went live. I guess they didn't have much confidence in their own product...

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The reason that for consoles is to CONTROL how things work on them. Hacking/Modding/Cheating is not only unethical but we agree not to do it. I get sick of hearing about ways around thing. Of course Microsoft is in business to make money so they are protecting rightfully so there intellectual property.

Hopefully they have the sense to not make the other 20mb a paperweight.

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#1 - I thought the same thing.

I think the price on the Elite stinks (should be $400 with the Premium dropping down to $300) but these "conditions" really aren't that big of a deal IMHO.

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agreed with #6, way to expensive to store stuff you are buying from marketplace anyways. Make the drive a lot cheaper, then we'd be encouraged to pay for content to fill it up. I'll pass, 20gb has been fine for me so far.

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Im going to just wait until someone finds a way to use your own 120 Gig drive.... im sorry but I refuse to pay anything more than 50 cents a GB. M$ needs to just man up and allow USB storage drives...

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All this whining. I think the only people upset are

1. pirates
2. modders
3. thieves

All of whom I could give a rat's ass about (laugh)

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I don't understand how MS keeps pulling this shit off and you fan boys keep lapping it up while you laugh at Sony as they pass you in sales figures every month.

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