No need for 360 fanboys to waste energy mocking the "revolutionary" PS3 controller for being sadly inferior to a 7 year-old product that worked with Warhawk on the PS1 when Playstation Magazine is producing humiliating videos like this. It turns out Pelican somehow got motion-sensing and rumble feedback to work on the same controller back in 1999. The first 30 seconds where he apes the Sony E3 keynote is classic stuff.
[Thanks Supascape & Imation]
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6-24-2006 @ 1:44PM
joba said...
Further proof that this whole motion sensor controller is a GIMMICK...
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6-24-2006 @ 1:56PM
Zacky V said...
Hahaha PSM turning against their own product
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6-24-2006 @ 2:34PM
JacKal said...
The whole 'rumble removed because of motion sensor tech' is bull. Immersion has already stated that if Sony would work with them, they are positive that there is no way that that would be a conflict, and that they personally could work with them and create a rumble tech that works with their motion sensor tech. The only reason why Sony doesn't have it is because they don't want Immersion to sue them again, since they left a bad taste in their mouth last time when small-time Immersion successfully sued and overturned an appeal against Sony who infringed on Immersion's 600+ rumble patents used in Sony's dualshock controllers. They were fined some odd $90 mill and then some, whereas microsoft just settled with them and bought stock in them even.
Sony won't use rumble not because it's 'inferior' or because 'it won't work with the motion sensor'... they won't use it because Immersion is their key to making it work in the controller, and they don't like them anymore. As for the motion sensor, that's obviously a gimmick, as if you *really* wanted that kind of experience, you'd just get a Wii anyhow. If you don't want that experience, why should you implement it in your controller for no reason when games won't even properly be made for it or even need it? Gimmick.
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6-24-2006 @ 3:01PM
Franky Digital said...
The most beautiful thing about this movie is that it was produced by a Playstation-supporting magainze; little cannabilization at it's finest. Then again, perhaps this is a sign that even the most diehard Sony fans should realize how much propoganda they are now blindly following.
I wonder what PSM will do if the publication as a whole decides to give up on Sony?
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6-24-2006 @ 3:05PM
sev4 pri1 said...
this type of motion inputting controller will be great for speeding carpel tunnel syndrome. repetative motions are great for your wrists.
now have confirmed two failed revolutionary controllers. a wand just makes sense.
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6-24-2006 @ 3:13PM
Ciaran Gallagher said...
lol I love the little geeky bit at the end with the little geeky smile: "Keep on Playstationing".
Interesting video by the way.
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6-24-2006 @ 4:21PM
Zach Wolf said...
Pelican could of made that controller for any system, just not PS1. I don't understand how everyone is saying that Sony had motion sensing first, they didn't even make it, Pelican did (and pelican could of easily made that for N64, Xbox, Dreamcast...).
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6-24-2006 @ 5:34PM
Eyecandy said...
I love it. How can the Sony Fanboys take anymore?
They are like Lemmings running to the ocean.
I especially like the guy saying he’s getting tired of all the motion.
I’m waiting for the always colorful and ignorant response from Cage.
In the hours I have before the next stupid phrase that a Sony exec says, or the next posting of MGS4 and FFXIII. I will be enjoying my 360.
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6-24-2006 @ 6:51PM
Xfan said...
Actually he managed to knock Sony and Nintendo at the same time. Sony, because someone else produced a controller that Sony said wasn't possible, and Nintendo, because he said that motion controller was 'tiring' ....which didn't some of us suspect that all along?
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6-24-2006 @ 9:00PM
Nik said...
I'm getting a little sick of hearing about how motion controllers are going to wear us down. Honestly if you're getting tired out by moving around a wand that probably weighs a pound or two then you could probably use a little motion :P. Moving the PS3 controller or the Wiimote isn't going to give you caprotunnel, in fact your wrists might thank you for the excercise. I'm no chiropractor or muscle doctor but I'd love to hear their opinion on it. Also, I would assume that as you play your console more you'll get better at it and it'll be less tiring. So don't worry you won't be putting up with it for long.
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6-24-2006 @ 10:17PM
Chris said...
You guys don't understand the whole 'unofficial' part of PSM. The reason they can put it down is because they try to be unbiased. We need that as consumers. Now, If you go read the Official PlayStation Magazine, they'll argue for the PS3 to no end. This is why PSM should get awarded for being truthful to products they review. We need more unbiased content so we'll all get fucked less.
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6-24-2006 @ 11:06PM
gman said...
Im tired just looking at that S--t!
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6-25-2006 @ 8:27AM
clavin42 said...
So what, this technology existed before that with the power globe introduced by Nintendo. It sucked then, it sucked at the time of this video, and it will suck when re-released in the future.
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6-25-2006 @ 9:20AM
Wolfgame said...
Let's try to remember something else about the ps3 controller. It's wireless. Wireless devices need wireless chipsets, antennas (internal in this case), and batteries. Rumble gamepads need motors and counterweights to shift the center of gravity frequently, causing the rumble.
I'm not knocking JacKal's talk about the patent infringement suit from Immersion. However, I doubt that that's the only reason. Sony execs aren't stupid. They know that rumble gamepads are very popular. But between the cost of licensing the rumble "technology" (ooh spin a counterweight really fast) and engineering a new kind of battery that will have the capacity to run it for a minimum of 6 hours, AND fit into a package that's as close to the dual shock as possible, I don't blame them for dropping it.
What I'm expecting is a PS3 dualshock to come out that will be wired, or someone will create a snap-on motor with a battery attched to it that will effectively double the weight on your controller.
To see an example of what I'm talking about, steal your girlfriend's/mother's/roommate's/or use your own vibrator, put in fresh batteries, turn it on, and see how long a pair of C or D cells last. For a more accurate demonstration, you'll have to wait for the ps3 to come out, I would assume. Unless Sony's posted somewhere the output and capacity rating for the battery in the wireless controller.
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6-25-2006 @ 9:20AM
James said...
Just because you start the article with "No need for 360 fanboys to waste energy ...", it still doesn't make this Xbox 360 news.
Please keep the Playstation fluff to yourself, I come here for 360 info.
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6-25-2006 @ 9:34AM
Matt said...
Yeah, that was interesting. I saw that on YouTube today and decided to blog about it myself.
It also appears that Sony is expecting to repeat it's previous feats by aiming to sell 100million units of PS3.
I'm not sure about you, but i'm not convinced Sony is going to do that. Why?
1) Too expensive
2) Not SO revolutionary motion sensor controller
3) Late to release
A comeback for Nintendo anyone??
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6-25-2006 @ 9:54AM
davidg said...
http://www.joystickreview.com/microsoft/sidewinderfreestylepro.asp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004Z729/002-0709090-6080867?v=glance&n=172282
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/freestylepro/
i think you'll find that the microsoft sidewinder freestyle had this identical tilt sensing technology, and it was released in 1997 or something. (i hope ms sue sony!)
btw, i know sony and the ps3 are shit, but i'm still pissed off at microsoft trying to muscle itself in to console market yrs ago. i'm buying a wii on launch, and waiting years for the ps3 to drop to below half price before buying, but i will not buy a 360 :)
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6-25-2006 @ 10:12AM
altodarknight said...
Just a note to 'wolfgame', the 360 controller does rumble, and is wireless. Within your profile you can choose whether to have rumble or not. You get approximatly 30 hours use out of a controller without rumble and 10 (if the controller rumbles constantly for the entire period). I am yet to find a game that has the controller rumble for the entire period of gameplay. At most, and very rarely at that, 1/3 of the game. So lets say that you play this one game for the entire life of the batteries, which are 2 AA. Doing the maths that is about 18.5 hours. I personally have never played for 18.5 hours straight. And with the batteries being rechargable, and taking 2 hours to fully recharge, I put them on to charge after I finish playing.
Now given that the PS3 controller is bluetooth, it's battery life will be considerably shorter than the 360's so maybe some considerations had to be made, but this is clearly not an issue of battery life, remember it was a sony exec who said that it was due to the motion-sensing that there was no rumble, not battery life. This is people rebutting sony's statements, not people rebutting assumptions made by other people about the lack of rumble.
Like you said, the sony execs aren't stupid. But they are arrogant. They have a build it and they will come attitude to the PS3, whereas nintendo and MS have a build it as they want and we will come. Why else would sony use the PS3 as the main stratedy to launch the blu-ray format. The Playstation brand is the only brand currently making money for sony, why risk it to launch a new format unless they feel it is certain, as they clearly do.
I wont waffle on but Microsoft and Nintendo can justify every aspect of the design and function of their console based on the user, what they want and will like. Sony's design is to either say, hey, some select stat, however pointless, is double yours, or try and cover a function of design aspect of the competion. It's seems out of place that the industry leader is playing catch up.
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6-25-2006 @ 10:14AM
mark said...
some fat guy on his playstation. how droll
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6-25-2006 @ 10:27AM
NiGHTS Chao said...
Who the hell cares, Rumble isnt some required thing that is totally able to change the game experience
we all know Sony is just saying that because of the lawsuit
and also that guy looked like a fucking idiot
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